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10-22-2009, 04:43 PM
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To me it is obvious that Price will never be a solid #1 for Montreal. He might become a #1, but only an average one. All his problem in the last few years and the lack of improvements indicated a bad tendancy. He can't face the pressure of playing Montreal.

With that in mind, Montreal should for once focus on building a strong team with goalies that aren't as good.

To LAK: Price, S. Kost, Hamrlik, 1st 2011

To MTL: J. Johnson , Frolov, Stoll, Ersberg, 1st 2010

What do you think?

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No way LA makes that trade.

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LOL, LA hangs up the phone. The gap between Price and Quick isn't that big.

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No way LA makes that trade.
I don't see why. Johnson has proven even less than Price at this point and Price's ceiling is much higher. Ersberg is crap, it's to have a 2nd goalie in Montreal.

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Trades usually have to benefit both teams. LA picks up a goalie who you admit has very little chance of being a #1 and a moody player who refuses to report to the AHL. And they give up a young, solid d-man, and a top-6 player. Riiiiight.

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I suppose we could throw in Plekanec in the deal

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10-22-2009, 04:53 PM
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Trades usually have to benefit both teams. LA picks up a goalie who you admit has very little chance of being a #1 and a moody player who refuses to report to the AHL. And they give up a young, solid d-man, and a top-6 player. Riiiiight.
HE has very little chance to reach #1 in montreal, he would reach his potential for sure anywhere else, learn to read or leave HFboards. Also if you read anything you'd know the problem with Kost is because he got into a fight with Gomez at his private house, which has nothing to do with hockey skills.

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It this point the firsts cancel out.

Price > Ersberg
Kostitsyn < Frolov
Hamrlik < Johnson
Nothing < Stoll

The only piece Montreal give up worth a damn is Price. No one wants KHL bound Kostitsyn, and Hamrlik's contract is a joke.

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10-22-2009, 04:57 PM
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Johnson is the most value piece in the entire deal and has been LA's best defenseman since the half way mark of last season. No way LA trades him.

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To me it is obvious that Price will never be a solid #1 for Montreal. He might become a #1, but only an average one. All his problem in the last few years and the lack of improvements indicated a bad tendancy. He can't face the pressure of playing Montreal.

With that in mind, Montreal should for once focus on building a strong team with goalies that aren't as good.

To LAK: Price, S. Kost, Hamrlik, 1st 2011

To MTL: J. Johnson , Frolov, Stoll, Ersberg, 1st 2010

What do you think?
Looks good...









....after you've added Markov.

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Trades usually have to benefit both teams. LA picks up a goalie who you admit has very little chance of being a #1 and a moody player who refuses to report to the AHL. And they give up a young, solid d-man, and a top-6 player. Riiiiight.
Riiiiight, cause Jack Johnson isn't a moody player. He's already been in the same shoes as Sergei Kostitsyn as in asking for a trade.

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10-22-2009, 05:03 PM
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It this point the firsts cancel out.

Price > Ersberg
Kostitsyn < Frolov
Hamrlik < Johnson
Nothing < Stoll

The only piece Montreal give up worth a damn is Price. No one wants KHL bound Kostitsyn, and Hamrlik's contract is a joke.

You compare position instead of skills

Price = Johnson (And I'd argue Price is slighty better)
Kostitsyn < Frolov
Plekanec < Stoll
Hamrlik >>>>>>>> Ersberg

Salary wise you get a relief long-term. Learn 2 do something else.

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10-22-2009, 05:06 PM
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Riiiiight, cause Jack Johnson isn't a moody player. He's already been in the same shoes as Sergei Kostitsyn as in asking for a trade.
He never asked for a trade. Get your facts straight. Johnson did exactly what he said he was going to do prior to even being drafted.

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Riiiiight, cause Jack Johnson isn't a moody player. He's already been in the same shoes as Sergei Kostitsyn as in asking for a trade.
when the hell did he ask for a trade?

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I guess my memory is ****ed 'cause I remember hearing rumors about him asking for a trade during the off-season.

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You compare position instead of skills

Price = Johnson (And I'd argue Price is slighty better)
Kostitsyn < Frolov
Plekanec < Stoll
Hamrlik >>>>>>>> Ersberg

Salary wise you get a relief long-term. Learn 2 do something else.
Quick's price tag > Price's price tag and i don't care how much better Price is, too me, he is not THAT much better. Johnson has probably been our most consistent dman so far this year, and @ 1.425 million he's a steal. Frolov will be used for an UPGRADE on the left wing or will be traded for picks or an Andrew Ladd type of player.

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I guess my memory is ****ed 'cause I remember hearing rumors about him asking for a trade during the off-season.
the "rumor" had him asking for a 5 million dollar contract.......if that was the case then HOW THE HELL DID HE END UP SIGNING A 1.425 million dollar contract? rumors aren't always true, in this case, it obviously wasn't.

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Hamrlik >>>>>>>> Ersberg


Take into account both teams needs and salary AT ALL maybe?
Terrible proposal.

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To me it is obvious that Price will never be a solid #1 for Montreal. He might become a #1, but only an average one. All his problem in the last few years and the lack of improvements indicated a bad tendancy. He can't face the pressure of playing Montreal.

With that in mind, Montreal should for once focus on building a strong team with goalies that aren't as good.

To LAK: Price, S. Kost, Hamrlik, 1st 2011

To MTL: J. Johnson , Frolov, Stoll, Ersberg, 1st 2010

What do you think?
Honestly.....Why do you think LA would do this? The other teams in the league aren't in business to make Montreal better.

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10-22-2009, 05:23 PM
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I guess my memory is ****ed 'cause I remember hearing rumors about him asking for a trade during the off-season.
You have a bad memory

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10-22-2009, 05:27 PM
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HE has very little chance to reach #1 in montreal, he would reach his potential for sure anywhere else, learn to read or leave HFboards. Also if you read anything you'd know the problem with Kost is because he got into a fight with Gomez at his private house, which has nothing to do with hockey skills.
Despite the fact that your attitude in this post is disgusting, I'll still bash you for it.
1) Price would reach his potential FOR SURE, ANYWHERE else? Vancouver? Carolina? Pittsburg? What a stupid comment to make, then degrade someone for it.
2) Do you believe everything you read in the ****** montreal tabloids? This is so stupid it hurts my head.

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To me it is obvious that Price will never be a solid #1 for Montreal. He might become a #1, but only an average one. All his problem in the last few years and the lack of improvements indicated a bad tendancy. He can't face the pressure of playing Montreal.

With that in mind, Montreal should for once focus on building a strong team with goalies that aren't as good.

To LAK: Price, S. Kost, Hamrlik, 1st 2011

To MTL: J. Johnson , Frolov, Stoll, Ersberg, 1st 2010

What do you think?
That is the most lopsided trade I have ever heard of on hf boards. Are you insane? LA no longer needs a goalie and price is currently a downgrade to quick. Johnson for hamrlik? Do I even have to comment on that one? Frolov and Stoll for Kost? What the hell is that? And what is with swapping first round picks? If anything LA would want more 1st round picks in 2010 cuz of how deep the draft will be with forwards and there need for prospects at lw. Oh...and i forgot....LA also has to give up ersberg. No way in hell.

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In all honesty, Quick has surpassed anybody's expectations. The Kings are set up very well in the G area. Their only needs are improvements on their 2nd line.

Crazy as it may seem, I take Quick over Price at their current level.

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To me it is obvious that Price will never be a solid #1 for Montreal. He might become a #1, but only an average one. All his problem in the last few years and the lack of improvements indicated a bad tendancy. He can't face the pressure of playing Montreal.

With that in mind, Montreal should for once focus on building a strong team with goalies that aren't as good.

To LAK: Price, S. Kost, Hamrlik, 1st 2011

To MTL: J. Johnson , Frolov, Stoll, Ersberg, 1st 2010

What do you think?
LA takes the trash for the quality!

This all in spite of the fact that Quick looks to be a decent goalie, at least passable for NHL caliber, and they have Bernier in the system.

Shouldn't have bothered clicking. Memo - you have to give to get, and Price is certainly not worth the bridge there.

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To me it is obvious that Price will never be a solid #1 for Montreal. He might become a #1, but only an average one. All his problem in the last few years and the lack of improvements indicated a bad tendancy. He can't face the pressure of playing Montreal.

With that in mind, Montreal should for once focus on building a strong team with goalies that aren't as good.

To LAK: Price, S. Kost, Hamrlik, 1st 2011

To MTL: J. Johnson , Frolov, Stoll, Ersberg, 1st 2010

What do you think?
LA certainly loses this deal. At this point, Price isn't a significant upgrade over what the Kings already have.

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