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10-29-2009, 10:18 AM
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In case anyone is interested (and I know you are), Hudler is tied for 3rd (Radulov) in KHL scoring with 8g, 14a in 20 games played. He is only behind Alexei Yashin (7g, 16a) and teammate Mattias Weinhandl (13g, 14a).

If you want to feel better about this just read it as..."Hudler currently trails Yashin and Weinhandl in scoring".

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10-29-2009, 10:27 AM
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If he keeps up he is going to get some massive offers from KHL teams. I can not imagine Hudler declining such offers and come back to Wings. I know I wouldn't.

If I were Hudler, I would think long and hard about coming back for about 1 million difference between NHL and KHL offers. But difference of 2-3 Millions plus and tax free? You have got to be kidding me.

It's good to hear he's doing well but he's gone, forget him.

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10-29-2009, 05:26 PM
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If he keeps up he is going to get some massive offers from KHL teams. I can not imagine Hudler declining such offers and come back to Wings. I know I wouldn't.

If I were Hudler, I would think long and hard about coming back for about 1 million difference between NHL and KHL offers. But difference of 2-3 Millions plus and tax free? You have got to be kidding me.

It's good to hear he's doing well but he's gone, forget him.
You do realize that not everyone plays solely for money, right?

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10-29-2009, 05:31 PM
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You do realize that not everyone plays solely for money, right?
Maybe not, but that's why Hudler left. I don't blame him either, all of the other stuff was just fluff.

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10-29-2009, 05:58 PM
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I think it was more than just money.

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10-29-2009, 06:03 PM
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Maybe. But money was the main reason. It's not like he left for $5 more a season.

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10-29-2009, 06:22 PM
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Maybe. But money was the main reason. It's not like he left for $5 more a season.
That isn't to say he wants to make the most money possible for the rest of his career. One would think he'd want to play against the best competition possible at some point...

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10-29-2009, 06:27 PM
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That isn't to say he wants to make the most money possible for the rest of his career. One would think he'd want to play against the best competition possible at some point...
No doubt, but for one he's already won a cup and he's still young enough to make a boat load of cash in the KHL (unless they fold) and come back in 5-6 years where he still has a guaranteed contract.

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10-29-2009, 09:53 PM
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I did not say he won't be back ever. You seem little too sensitive about Hudler issue though.

I am too tired right now to explain so just re read my previous comment again.

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10-29-2009, 10:00 PM
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I did not say he won't be back ever. You seem little too sensitive about Hudler issue though.

I am too tired right now to explain so just re read my previous comment again.
Sensitive? I asked a question... you made an assertion that it's all about the money, and I questioned it.

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10-29-2009, 10:04 PM
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Sensitive? I asked a question... you made an assertion that it's all about the money, and I questioned it.
alright fine I'm wrong I'm sorry Hudler will be back let's move on

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10-30-2009, 05:57 AM
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Um guys, Hudler clearly stated that a major reason he left was because he would be a first liner in Russia. Yes money was a factor but not the only one.

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10-31-2009, 01:38 PM
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You do realize that not everyone plays solely for money, right?
That make no sense thats the reason he left the Wings, so he could get a big pay day, he certanly didn't leave so he could go face superior competition and challenge his skill set. Redmenace u need to get over ur man crush of Hudler the guys a trader, as far as I'm concerned he can stay over in Russia where he belongs for the rest of his career, hell the guy was over hyped to begin with...he was nothing but a product of his enviroment, put him on the Leafs and he would of topped out at 40pts a year.

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10-31-2009, 01:49 PM
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So playing with Draper and Maltby helped Hudler to produce? Sure... the system... whatever...

Why you people dislike Hudler? Because he decided to take the big money and a bigger role, instead of peanuts and sitting in Babcock's doghouse?

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10-31-2009, 01:56 PM
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So playing with Draper and Maltby helped Hudler to produce? Sure... the system... whatever...

Why you people dislike Hudler? Because he decided to take the big money and a bigger role, instead of peanuts and sitting in Babcock's doghouse?
That's the ironic part. Hudler would've made close to 3m here (again, he was smart taking the 10m untaxed in Russia) and would've been a fixture in the top 6 getting consistent minutes and in a situation to become the leader he claimed to want to be.

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10-31-2009, 03:29 PM
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That's the ironic part. Hudler would've made close to 3m here (again, he was smart taking the 10m untaxed in Russia) and would've been a fixture in the top 6 getting consistent minutes and in a situation to become the leader he claimed to want to be.
Thank you Heaton, exactly, to those that claim he didn't leave for the money but to get the chance to play first line mintues in the KHL, what do u think he would of done this year.... he would of played in the top 6 registering close too "1st line" min's plus the opportunity to prove that he was maybe worthy of not being in Babcocks so called doghouse(gee I wonder why he was there in the first place) and being a guy the team relied on too be a leader and put up top 6 worthy points.

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10-31-2009, 03:33 PM
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So playing with Draper and Maltby helped Hudler to produce? Sure... the system... whatever...

Why you people dislike Hudler? Because he decided to take the big money and a bigger role, instead of peanuts and sitting in Babcock's doghouse?
Who dislikes Hudler? I'd done the same thing had I been him. You never sell yourself short (hah pun).

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10-31-2009, 03:52 PM
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Kind of interesting to see the names on the top 25 leading scorer list for the KHL...quite a few former-NHLers.

Weinhandl
Yashin
Radulov
Hudler
Sushinski (1 year with the Wild)
Marcel Hossa
Vasicek
Stumpel
Thoresen
Chistov
Morozov
Ekman
Hyvonen (brief time with Sharks and Blue Jackets)
Jagr (who? )
Iggulden (Sharks/Islanders)
Cajanek
Radivojevic

17 of 25 in the top 25...

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11-01-2009, 12:57 AM
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Hudler's salary isn't 5 million.

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11-01-2009, 01:00 AM
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Hudler's salary isn't 5 million.
Whatever it is, it's twice as much as he would've been making in the NHL this season.

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11-01-2009, 01:00 AM
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Kind of interesting to see the names on the top 25 leading scorer list for the KHL...quite a few former-NHLers.

Weinhandl
Yashin
Radulov
Hudler
Sushinski (1 year with the Wild)
Marcel Hossa
Vasicek
Stumpel
Thoresen
Chistov
Morozov
Ekman
Hyvonen (brief time with Sharks and Blue Jackets)
Jagr (who? )
Iggulden (Sharks/Islanders)
Cajanek
Radivojevic

17 of 25 in the top 25...
Zinoviev played in Boston for like 10 games also.

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11-01-2009, 01:36 AM
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Whatever it is, it's twice as much as he would've been making in the NHL this season.
So what? He's willing to return when there will be a chance to make it to TOP 6.

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That make no sense thats the reason he left the Wings, so he could get a big pay day, he certanly didn't leave so he could go face superior competition and challenge his skill set. Redmenace u need to get over ur man crush of Hudler the guys a trader, as far as I'm concerned he can stay over in Russia where he belongs for the rest of his career, hell the guy was over hyped to begin with...he was nothing but a product of his enviroment, put him on the Leafs and he would of topped out at 40pts a year.
Um... man crush? Okay dude, you need to check yourself. Just because I support one of the underdogs doesn't mean it's a "man crush."

A "trader?" If you mean "traitor," then I don't get it. It's not like he went to the Ducks, Blackhawks, or Penguins for money.

Over-hyped? Seriously? Sure, he blew up the AHL, but nobody said anything about him. Nobody STILL says anything about him. If he's such a product of his environment, why did he blow up the AHL, and why is he one of the top scorers in the KHL?

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Hudler's salary isn't 5 million.
It's not? I'm pretty sure it was reported as $10 MM for two years.

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11-01-2009, 09:12 AM
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So playing with Draper and Maltby helped Hudler to produce? Sure... the system... whatever...

Why you people dislike Hudler? Because he decided to take the big money and a bigger role, instead of peanuts and sitting in Babcock's doghouse?
The guy has great offensive instincts. I don't blame him one iota for feeling like he shouldn't have the spend the rest of his Wings career in Babs' dog house, and the third or fourth line-- while getting paid twice as much. This is really a No Brainer. Wings brass apparently agrees with him judging by their comments.

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