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11-01-2009, 03:46 PM
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big time bummer he is not doing welll but to be honest Dumping Gomez alone and signing Gaborik was worth it. Plus we will see what McDonaugh can do down the road

If Higgins can't bounce back I am sure they can find a team that will send another underachiever and if not it's not like he is not a good PKer. Plus he is a UFA next yr and off the books. Grachev should be ready then

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A player can be playing well even though he's not scoring. Higgins has hardly hurt the team when he's been on the ice.

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11-01-2009, 03:58 PM
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A player can be playing well even though he's not scoring. Higgins has hardly hurt the team when he's been on the ice.
I think Higgins played much better today, he was great on the PK. He played a very smart game.

I'm disappointed he didn't score, but then again, he is certainly not the only person on the team who is struggling to find the net right now.

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11-01-2009, 03:59 PM
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A player can be playing well even though he's not scoring. Higgins has hardly hurt the team when he's been on the ice.
yea but for 2 plus million he needs to score. Luckily they have depth and cheaper options like Lisin can step up.

I am for giving Higgins a chance and worst case he is a good Pker and is a UFA next yr anyway

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11-01-2009, 04:01 PM
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he's a hard working guy, and so what as long as he is a plus im fine with him. Plus i really like the americans on our team. Duby, cally, drury, higgins, gilroy. I can see Higgins diving and taking a puck off his face to save a goal. When i think of hard gritty playoff hockey, i think of these guys

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11-01-2009, 04:10 PM
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he's a hard working guy, and so what as long as he is a plus im fine with him. Plus i really like the americans on our team. Duby, cally, drury, higgins, gilroy. I can see Higgins diving and taking a puck off his face to save a goal. When i think of hard gritty playoff hockey, i think of these guys
But we need more than one guy who can put the puck in the net. Our "secondary scoring" are as secondary as NYR tradition ensues.

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11-01-2009, 04:12 PM
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But we need more than one guy who can put the puck in the net. Our "secondary scoring" are as secondary as NYR tradition ensues.
So far. The season is still young and unlike a lot of the old secondary scorers they actually contribute on most nights even if they arent scoring.

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11-01-2009, 04:14 PM
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Higgins played much better today

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LOL no way is this even remotely true.

No way Slats admits defeat on this one after 13 games.
He traded Gomez. That's a win no matter how you slice it.

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11-01-2009, 05:21 PM
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Higgins were completely invisible again tonight...
Not completely, he just didnt score.

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I hope we can move Higgins. He is just not fitting in. And we need someone who can be a much stronger player, and especially take more responsibility.

Like in the last 40 minutes tonight we had 12 shots on goal -- and at least 4-5 of them we dump ins put on the net... We need someone who can go deep and skate the puck up ice. Someone who is strong in all areas of the game. It don't have to be someone who will score 60-70 pts -- but someone who can skate and handle the puck.

Higgins were completely invisible again tonight...
Ok if Phoenix is the trade partner - Mikkel Bödker.

No, not gonna happen, I know.

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11-01-2009, 05:35 PM
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i would take Mueller in a heartbeat, as I have said before nothing grows in Arizona except cactus. So forget about growing NHL talent.

The Yotes have a lot of great upcoming prospects to ruin so they might be frustrated with Young Peter. As far as a Perimeter floater, they said the same thing about Prospal. Hell, they said the thing about Lisin and Mueller is a proven NHL scorer.

Plus they love dealing with us. I Like it! I'm gonna run with it ! Higgy for Mueller !

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Watch in our next blowout game with 6, 7ish goals, Higgins will have between 4-5 points, 2-3 being goals

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Trading an underperforming vet like Higgins, one year before UFA for a kid like Mueller would be a steal.

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A player can be playing well even though he's not scoring. Higgins has hardly hurt the team when he's been on the ice.
Yeah, but you just don't win many cups if you have 17 of those around...

Seriously though, he ain't making up for 2 assists in 13 games with his "hard work". But I agree -- he isn't completely worthless. But we need more. Looking at how our team is constructed -- we need more players to play better hockey. There is no ifs or buts about it. And they need to play a lot better hockey. Our PP is almost close to 30%. We have had our fair share of bounces. And we are still struggling. We have a rookie D who is scoring around a PPG pace.

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i would take Mueller in a heartbeat, as I have said before nothing grows in Arizona except cactus. So forget about growing NHL talent.

The Yotes have a lot of great upcoming prospects to ruin so they might be frustrated with Young Peter. As far as a Perimeter floater, they said the same thing about Prospal. Hell, they said the thing about Lisin and Mueller is a proven NHL scorer.

Plus they love dealing with us. I Like it! I'm gonna run with it ! Higgy for Mueller !
People say a lot of things around here. I didnt say that about Prospal. In fact I think I even suggested that we should pick up him before we did.

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Trading an underperforming vet like Higgins, one year before UFA for a kid like Mueller would be a steal.
I would sign for that deal yesterday.

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11-01-2009, 06:14 PM
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Trading an underperforming vet like Higgins, one year before UFA for a kid like Mueller would be a steal.
IMO, never in a life time.

You don't win many hockeygames with players like him. A team can afford to carry a Gaborik or two, but ideally all 18 skaters should play a team game and then add to that. Not saying that Gabby isn't doing that, but sometimes he -- with right -- takes chances.

Anyway, Mueller is a typical "junior star". He doesn't play a 2-way game. He have potential to like become a new "Jeff O'Neil", someone who can put up good numbers for a below avg team. But he just isn't enough talented to be worth it. I much rather bet on someone like Zherdev....

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Yeah, but you just don't win many cups if you have 17 of those around...

Seriously though, he ain't making up for 2 assists in 13 games with his "hard work". But I agree -- he isn't completely worthless. But we need more. Looking at how our team is constructed -- we need more players to play better hockey. There is no ifs or buts about it. And they need to play a lot better hockey. Our PP is almost close to 30%. We have had our fair share of bounces. And we are still struggling. We have a rookie D who is scoring around a PPG pace.
Now when you put those numbers up... our winning record should be better, since our PP% is ridiculously good, our D has played and produced beyond expectations, at least offensively... our real problem is our forward depth. Our guys who can "hopefully" chip in once in a while, aren't. None of them.


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I would take Upshall for Higgins.

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Higgins will come around. You can't label someone as a bust less than 15 games into the season. That's not say I would be opposed to trading him (especially since he will a UFA after this season), but I think he'll break out eventually. He may not play as hard as Callahan or whatever, but he has at least as much if not more talent. He's just snake-bitten right now. Also, the constant line juggling does little to help

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If Higgins is in fact being shopped around the Rangers need to look for a finisher, whether or not he is good in other facets of the game is negligible at this point. The Rangers have 1 goal scorer on this team, 1, and I'm sure we all know who that is.

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Higgins will come around. You can't label someone as a bust less than 15 games into the season.
To be fair, Higgins was never really supposed to be a scorer. For whatever reason, he only ever scored with Koivu. When Koivu would get hurt, Higgs offense would disappear. If he's not set up with an open net, he'll shoot for the logo on the goalie's chest. He's a career 3rd line PKer. He doesn't have the consistancy to be in the top 6. If you want him to score, you'll have to get Koivu from the Ducks.

This is the frustrating thing about Chris. If you don't depend on him to be a scorer, the better his defensive/PK game is. He'll probably get more short handed goals this year then 5 on 5.

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11-01-2009, 07:24 PM
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To be fair, Higgins was never really supposed to be a scorer. For whatever reason, he only ever scored with Koivu. When Koivu would get hurt, Higgs offense would disappear. If he's not set up with an open net, he'll shoot for the logo on the goalie's chest. He's a career 3rd line PKer. He doesn't have the consistancy to be in the top 6. If you want him to score, you'll have to get Koivu from the Ducks.

This is the frustrating thing about Chris. If you don't depend on him to be a scorer, the better his defensive/PK game is. He'll probably get more short handed goals this year then 5 on 5.
Ducks are struggling. How about a move to Aneheim to play with Koivu and Selanne

I would take make Artyukin

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11-01-2009, 07:30 PM
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This guy is a clown but I think Higgins' struggles wont make or break a deal. Even if Higgins was producing an average season, he is a FA after this season so he wont have a lot of worth.

He wouldnt be worth a second rounder even if he had 5 goals and 10 points at this point. The only chance we would get that high of a return is if he had 20-30-50 totals by the deadline, and with the way he's been buried on the depth chart, I just dont see him having a good statistical season.

3rd, 4th or 5th rounder and cap space is fine with me. I say get rid of him now because if he keeps this up he'll be in hartford very shortly.

huge disappointment IMO

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