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11-05-2009, 01:54 PM
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You want to know who isnt/wasnt considered fast?

Jagr.

He worked out pretty well.
yeah but at the end when he really struggled, his slowness is what stood out.

jagr slowed down and so did his effectiveness.

forsberg plays a rugged game to go along with his offense and without foot speed, hes gonna have a tough time keeping up in a torts system.

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11-05-2009, 01:58 PM
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man these guys take long shifts

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11-05-2009, 01:58 PM
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yeah but at the end when he really struggled, his slowness is what stood out.

jagr slowed down and so did his effectiveness.

forsberg plays a rugged game to go along with his offense and without foot speed, hes gonna have a tough time keeping up in a torts system.
Slow players still produce despite their foot speed. Jagr, Shanny are two recent examples for the NYR. I'm for Forsberg if he fits financially because he makes the team better.

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11-05-2009, 01:58 PM
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Yeah, I was a bit too quick there. I wasn't aware of how long the shift was, and of course it's his first game in a long time (not counting the three with MoDo), but fact remains: he was too slow in that situation. Actually it seemed more like a balancing problem, he's been off-balance a lot this game.

But I won't judge him based on this one, let's sum it up after the tournament.

I never claimed he used to have incredible speed, but he's never been outright slow.

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11-05-2009, 01:59 PM
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yeah but at the end when he really struggled, his slowness is what stood out.

jagr slowed down and so did his effectiveness.

forsberg plays a rugged game to go along with his offense and without foot speed, hes gonna have a tough time keeping up in a torts system.
I agree that he most likely wouldnt be the type of player to be first in on the forecheck but the Rangers have plenty of those types of players. They need someone to ditribute the puck and if people think Prospal is a good passer, wait until you get to watch Forseberg every night. At this point in his career I think he would be better suited to wing and I would try a lineup like this:

Lisin-Prospal-Gaborik
Forseberg-Dubinsky-Drury
Kotalik-Anisimov-Callahan
Avery-Boyle-Byers/Brashear

Higgins traded for cap room(2.1 million)

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11-05-2009, 01:59 PM
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He didnt look that slow.....idk

Lets not forget Forsberg is arguably the best passer to ever play in the NHL

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11-05-2009, 02:01 PM
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way way way over used statement with very very very little value.

see>>>

drury, chris

also, forsberg is slow. his wheels were shot 2 years ago.

a team with dreary and forsberg sounds really good.......

5 years ago.
I don't really care if it's overused because in this instance it's actually true. You don't think Forsberg has anything to offer the younger players in terms of guidance or advice?

Personally I'm willing to bet that Jagr helped Dubi with puck possesion in the offensive zone. I don't think it's a myth that older players help younger players. Especially future HOFers. It's not typically a reason to sign a guy but it's a nice bonus.

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11-05-2009, 02:04 PM
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I agree that he most likely wouldnt be the type of player to be first in on the forecheck but the Rangers have plenty of those types of players. They need someone to ditribute the puck and if people think Prospal is a good passer, wait until you get to watch Forseberg every night. At this point in his career I think he would be better suited to wing and I would try a lineup like this:

Lisin-Prospal-Gaborik
Forsberg-Dubinsky-Drury
Kotalik-Anisimov-Callahan
Avery-Boyle-Byers/Brashear

Higgins traded for cap room(2.1 million)

Lol so that basically amounts to Sather turning Gomer and Pyatt into Gabby and Forsberg.....

mu hah hah

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I don't really care if it's overused because in this instance it's actually true. You don't think Forsberg has anything to offer the younger players in terms of guidance or advice?

Personally I'm willing to bet that Jagr helped Dubi with puck possesion in the offensive zone. I don't think it's a myth that older players help younger players. Especially future HOFers. It's not typically a reason to sign a guy but it's a nice bonus.
The truth of the matter is this, and its very simple:

Younger players, and players in general, get better when they get to practice with better players. Having players like Gaborik or Datsyuk and Zetterberg, or Malkin and Crosby make their teammates better because they have to play with them or against them everyday. They have to up their level of play. Having an elite playmaker like Forseberg would help them understand the game in a totally different way than a player like Higgins or many other players.

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He didnt look that slow.....idk

Lets not forget Forsberg is arguably the best passer to ever play in the NHL
He's not better than Gretzky... come on

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So now we know why Higgins is being shopped. To make #21 available.

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He's not better than Gretzky... come on
Ok .... but he's in that conversation imo. The guy has incredible vision.

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So now we know why Higgins is being shopped. To make #21 available.
I was just about to say the same thing.

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11-05-2009, 02:10 PM
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I wish I could understand Swedish >.<

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Good 2nd from Forsberg -- but hes taking it easy physically. His first 3 games in the SEL he was being as physical as he ever have been. Now he just wants to survive the 1st game it seems.

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11-05-2009, 02:14 PM
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I wish I could understand Swedish >.<

Me too....its like these guys have a different word for everything.


and kind of a drab looking crowd no? Fans don't sport the team colors so much I guess

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Me too....its like these guys have a different word for everything.


and kind of a drab looking crowd no? Fans don't sport the team colors so much I guess
Maybe they're wearing the jerseys and stuff of their local team? opposed to just czech or swedish national jerseys?

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11-05-2009, 02:24 PM
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Maybe they're wearing the jerseys and stuff of their local team? opposed to just czech or swedish national jerseys?

All Im seeing is lots of dark brown, grey and black winter wear. Maybe they keep the arena nice and cold for the ice

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True I actually noticed that right after i commented it, maybe it's a bit nippy in there haha

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#1 is he healthy

#2 does he improve the current roster

#3 does he mesh with the system

#4 can they make the money part work

#1 is a fair question but that is why they're checking.

The others are a joke.

If healthy, he improves the roster tenfold. He can mesh with any system. You can always make the money work.

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OT: Kinda cool to see Karel Rachunek again; there's a former Ranger I've thankfully managed to forget about!

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Who cares is his foot falls apart? That's a risk this team should be willing to take. There's a good chance they're not going anywhere with or without him. Why not play the lotto and see if we're lucky. The guy won't be here for more than 1 year anyway

Plus, Forsberg on one foot is still a better playmaker than anyone on this team
Thats a good point, however i highly doubt forsberg is the same force and dominant player he used to be, i mena its possible but his condtioning and trainging would have to have been extreemly high, becuase although we may not see it, the game is getting better every year. I just have to look at a video of a game o mayeb 3 6 years ago and see the difference. But hey the way they are looking reminding me of last year, it is really hard not to want to try anything different, and who better than the Rangers.

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#1 is a fair question but that is why they're checking.

The others are a joke.

If healthy, he improves the roster tenfold. He can mesh with any system. You can always make the money work.
like i just wrote, u have no idea what kind of skill level foppa has as of now. For all we know he could be finished. I mean i watched Jagr play for the cze team last spring and he looked finished. So lets be a little more relaistic, its more of a long shot in all those categories but its worth a shot.

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RDS reporting he signed in the KHL.

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So I guess it was about money? Why the hell else would he go there?

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