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11-04-2009, 11:19 PM
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Halak and poor prospect for Rafalski

To Detroit :

Halak and one of this player:

Pyatt, White, Carle, Belle, S. Kostystyn, 2th round pick...

to Montreal : Rafalski

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11-05-2009, 12:00 AM
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Halak is not worth more than a 2nd pick.

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11-05-2009, 12:03 AM
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Rafalski for Halak and Gorges

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Aren't there enough Halak to Detroit proposals in the Trades forum?

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Aren't there enough Halak to Detroit proposals in the Trades forum?
Not to mention Rafalski trade proposals in general. The guy's got a NTC so it's almost certain he'll never be traded.

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11-05-2009, 03:50 PM
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Rafalski for Halak and Gorges
I'd do that deal in a second....save for the fact that Rafalski has that NTC and theres no way the Habs trade Gorges now that hes finally come into his own.

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Not to mention Rafalski trade proposals in general. The guy's got a NTC so it's almost certain he'll never be traded.
Contracts and clauses aside, Halak for Rafalski is a case of both teams trading from a position of strength for a position of weakness, so it has some merit as far as logic goes. Too bad it all falls apart when you take contracts into consideration.

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I'd do that deal in a second....save for the fact that Rafalski has that NTC and theres no way the Habs trade Gorges now that hes finally come into his own.
Yeah, I know Rafalski has a NTC.. Its just fun to think about the deals we could have made if he didn't..

I agree with you though.. The Habs probably wouldn't do that deal..

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11-05-2009, 05:17 PM
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Why would we trade Rafalski?

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Why would we trade Rafalski?
Since Lang and Sammy left there has to be a whipping boy.

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11-05-2009, 06:37 PM
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Since Lang and Sammy left there has to be a whipping boy.
I think theres a rule that says if you make over 5M, then you aren't the whipping boy - you just suck.

After all, isn't that why we have Lebda?

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I believe the problem to be that the Wings' fanbase, for the most part, yearns for their offense to put up the goals and for their defense to keep the puck away from the inside of our net. Rafalski is not enough of a defensive defenseman, he's more like a forward that is told to play defense.

Lidstrom is a defensive player, Ericsson will be a defensive star when he learns to unleash his pent up rage and destroy opposing players for the fun of it. Rafalski is not the type of defenseman that our team needs at the moment. Given his cap hit, it is fairly easy to label him as a liability to the structure and effectiveness of this team.

Given what the Wings are paying a few of their skilled forwards, we should be getting more offensive production. I remember a time when Ozzy hardly had to work to get a win because of the team in front of him.


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11-07-2009, 03:40 AM
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Rafalski+Cleary+Leino = 9 million $ for Nylander+Semin = 9.5 million $

Would you do this?


I really want to get rid of Rafalski and his 6 million dollar cap hit.


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Rafalski+Filppula+Cleary+Leino = 12 million $ for Nylander+Semin+Pothier+second 2011 = 12 million $

Would you do this?


I really want to get rid of Rafalski and his 6 million dollar cap hit.
I think that deal makes both teams worse going forward. That's awesome .

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Rafalski+Cleary+Leino = 9 million $ for Nylander+Semin = 9.5 million $

Would you do this?


I really want to get rid of Rafalski and his 6 million dollar cap hit.
Nylander's contract is worse.

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I think that deal makes both teams worse going forward. That's awesome .
You quoted my post before I edited it


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Nylander's contract is worse.
I disagree, put Nylander with two energizer bunnies like Helm and Eaves or two defensively great players like Zetterberg, Franzen, Datsyuk or Filppula and he could be very successful.

Semin-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi

Zetterberg-Nylander-Franzen

Williams-Filppula-Eaves

Draper-Helm-Holmstrom


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Osgood is better than Halak, Halak is an okay back up.

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