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11-08-2009, 10:01 PM
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Why not Chipchura ? He's improved his skating , big and strong , not afraid to drop the glove's and he has some skill and vision and unlike some who have gotten a shot on the second line he has some real hockey sense .
Should we take him out to a pier and make him demonstrate that he can shoot a puck into the St. Lawrence? When he succeeds in doing that, we should next have him shoot at a soccer goal and, eventually, a hockey net. Of course, it would spoil the fun if there was a goaltender standing in front of it.

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11-08-2009, 10:08 PM
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Whether you're looking to package the K brothers to get some help or not, I think it's high time to try pluging Sergei with his brother on the 2nd line. No secondary scoring idea has worked, and it's time to exhaust the possibilities.
Bonus: if they're looking to trade Sergei, he'll be more marketable in Montreal.

Playing natural defensive centers on the wing on a scoring line, is a recipe for failure. I can't blame Lapierre for his recent play, he's put in a role he wasn't cut out for...
It was worth trying. The Habs are short of offensively gifted forwards and the Kostitsyn brothers were both not playing well. Poor Plekanec! Just when he's making a successful comeback, he gets stuck with donkeys instead of thoroughbreds.

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11-08-2009, 10:12 PM
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Gainey offered kovalev a contract.

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11-08-2009, 10:24 PM
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I think Sergei will soon get a call up. He seems to turning over a new leaf in the AHL under Guy and hopefully this will translate into a call up. There is no other better option to potentially spark the 2nd line with scoring.

Cammy - Gomez - Gionta
S Kost - Plecks - A Kost
Patches - Metro - Moen
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11-08-2009, 10:39 PM
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Should we take him out to a pier and make him demonstrate that he can shoot a puck into the St. Lawrence? When he succeeds in doing that, we should next have him shoot at a soccer goal and, eventually, a hockey net. Of course, it would spoil the fun if there was a goaltender standing in front of it.
because chipchura's job so far has been to create offense, right?




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No good news for Chipchura and Stewart ...
no it isn't and really unfortunate for Chipchura. I know people are in love with Pyatt and White but I don't remember Chipchura in recent weeks be hemmed into his own zone as much as those two.

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I'm happy for Andrei and Carle !

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11-08-2009, 10:47 PM
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no it isn't and really unfortunate for Chipchura. I know people are in love with Pyatt and White but I don't remember Chipchura in recent weeks be hemmed into his own zone as much as those two.
chipchura should center those two and see how it goes. Patches needs to be sent to the A anyway. He's been invisible for weeks.

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I think Sergei will soon get a call up. He seems to turning over a new leaf in the AHL under Guy and hopefully this will translate into a call up. There is no other better option to potentially spark the 2nd line with scoring.

Cammy - Gomez - Gionta
S Kost - Plecks - A Kost
Patches - Metro - Moen
Lats - Laps - (insert whoever)
I hope you're right.
What are they waiting for?! 8-12 record? 9-14 record?

I could be wrong of course, but I predict a very energized Sergei (if/when he returns), if they can only give him one more chance...it might also give a huge boost to Andrei and Pleks can only help those two and...together they can form a VERY solid 2nd line.


Cammalleri - Gomez - Gionta
S.Kosts - Pleks - A.Kosts
Paccio - Metro - Moen
Pyatt/Chip - Lapierre/Pyatt - Chipchura/White


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put Gionta with Pleks (don't leave Pleks by himself, he's playing so well).


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chipchura should center those two and see how it goes. Patches needs to be sent to the A anyway. He's been invisible for weeks.
This is far from an unpopular view, but I've yet to see anyone lay out how this would actually help MaxPac. I've heard buzz phrases like "learn how to dominate offensively" (which I don't think was ever in his potential to do at the NHL level, I don't care if he's a 1st round draft pick or not), but don't know what he has left to learn in the AHL that will help him do that, or anything else, more quickly in the NHL than actually playing at that level right now.

Which is to say, if you have noticed something that apparently no one else has (or I'm sure they would have expanded on it by now instead of just repeating the "send him down" mantra), I'd love to read it. Because I can see a lot of little things that he could do differently (most of which require playing at NHL speeds, not with/against scrubs at a lower level), but can't watch and focus on him live (nor at practice) so I can only see what he does while he's caught in the view provided by the 46" box between my speakers or the 19" one I'm using right now.

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11-08-2009, 11:11 PM
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This is far from an unpopular view, but I've yet to see anyone lay out how this would actually help MaxPac. I've heard buzz phrases like "learn how to dominate offensively" (which I don't think was ever in his potential to do at the NHL level, I don't care if he's a 1st round draft pick or not), but don't know what he has left to learn in the AHL that will help him do that, or anything else, more quickly in the NHL than actually playing at that level right now.

Which is to say, if you have noticed something that apparently no one else has (or I'm sure they would have expanded on it by now instead of just repeating the "send him down" mantra), I'd love to read it. Because I can see a lot of little things that he could do differently (most of which require playing at NHL speeds, not with/against scrubs at a lower level), but can't watch and focus on him live (nor at practice) so I can only see what he does while he's caught in the view provided by the 46" box between my speakers or the 19" one I'm using right now.
Not sure if you're taking a shot at me, but it's late so I'll let it go

I'm not picking on the guy, i just think he needs to get his confidence back up. Also, even when he was on his game last year, he was no goalscoring threat. I'm talking about NHL and AHL here. He was mostly an assists guy.

I just don't want him to turn into another latendresse, you know? We're seeing what rushing prospects has done to other players. I have high hopes for Max Pac and I just want to see him succeed.

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11-09-2009, 01:17 AM
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Cammy - Plek - Gionta
SK - Gomer - AK
Patches - Metro - Moen
White - Pyatt - Laps

good young team

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Not sure if you're taking a shot at me, but it's late so I'll let it go

I'm not picking on the guy, i just think he needs to get his confidence back up. Also, even when he was on his game last year, he was no goalscoring threat. I'm talking about NHL and AHL here. He was mostly an assists guy.

I just don't want him to turn into another latendresse, you know? We're seeing what rushing prospects has done to other players. I have high hopes for Max Pac and I just want to see him succeed.
Not a shot at all, although I can see where it might have seemed that way. No, honestly and specifically, what would improve in his game playing in the NHL, and would it improve quicker playing/practicing with and against minor leagers, or against real NHLers?

I ask, because fundamentally and physically he seems ready for the NHL. If we're talking about things like following the play, timing, forechecking, defensive schemes/positioning, linemate chemistry, etc, he's probably better off jumping right in and getting these things in the NHL with/from NHL players beside him. I've never been sold on the AHL as a "confidence factory", as I think all players are well aware that the level of the two leagues is miles apart, and that there are plenty of guys who dominate the AHL and never find permanent NHL homes. Sticking in the NHL is as much of a confidence booster for a young player as anything, I suspect. Better for the ego than getting cut from camp, for example.

If you're physically mature, and fundamentally sound enough to stay in the play at the NHL level, there's really no need to waste time at the AHL level anymore. It will take him a few years to get up to speed/potential, but it would take that time PLUS time spent in the AHL if you send him down (and the Habs end up with another spot to fill in the lineup anyway). Mind you, this is my impression as relates to MaxPac specifically, not young players in general, obviously.

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11-09-2009, 02:22 AM
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Cammy - Plek - Gionta
SK - Gomer - AK
Patches - Metro - Moen
White - Pyatt - Laps

good young team
I like this lineup but where is Lats

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WTF I thought Leach was signed for Hamilton.

Leach-Bergeron OMG!

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its probably just a therapy day for Mara. They needed to get leach some practice time with the team anyhow.

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Should we take him out to a pier and make him demonstrate that he can shoot a puck into the St. Lawrence? When he succeeds in doing that, we should next have him shoot at a soccer goal and, eventually, a hockey net. Of course, it would spoil the fun if there was a goaltender standing in front of it.
So you agree that he won't do any worse than the other player's who have already been given a shot .

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This is far from an unpopular view, but I've yet to see anyone lay out how this would actually help MaxPac.
Currently, MaxPac didn't see the play well. He is now playing as a checker and has been improving as a checker. He needs to learn to make good and quick passes and get into position to take good shots. In the AHL, he would play against much weaker opponents. He'll have more time on the ice to improve as a top six forward. The coaches will train him to do that. In the NHL, the coach assigns him on a checking line. We don't want MaxPac to become another Lapierre.

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If Sergei is ready and Boucher thinks he got his head out of his ass, then bring him up and send Pacioretty down.

He's clearly not ready.

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People are on Latendresse for not being physical enough(which is true, he should be more aggressive), but that same complaint would apply even more so to Pacioretty.

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People are on Latendresse for not being physical enough(which is true, he should be more aggressive), but that same complaint would apply even more so to Pacioretty.
misery sure loves company dont it.

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People are on Latendresse for not being physical enough(which is true, he should be more aggressive), but that same complaint would apply even more so to Pacioretty.
Guillaume isn't an agressive type player. He has been a perimeter player at all levels and will be for the rest of his hockey career. Just let him play his game, and he'll progress faster and be more useful to the team.

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Guillaume isn't an agressive type player. He has been a perimeter player at all levels and will be for the rest of his hockey career. Just let him play his game, and he'll progress faster and be more useful to the team.
everyone seems to be confused about this.. it seems to me ''his game'' changes every game. Ive never seen a player who doesnt know his role and who's fans dont even know what his role is. Parts of the media call him 'le train'' -''the train'', now your saying his game isnt physical. Im confused. What is lats game exactly?


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Hope Kostitsyn will continue to work hard. Martin is maybe on to something with Andrei...
Why are they not trying

Cammalleri - Gomez - A.K ????

Plekanec and Gionta would make a good combo too.

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If Sergei is ready and Boucher thinks he got his head out of his ass, then bring him up and send Pacioretty down.

He's clearly not ready.
Pacioretty needs more time at AHL level.

Why wait ?

As for S.K., hopefully he's back on track. But I beleive it when I see it in his case.

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