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11-12-2009, 12:00 PM
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Kopitar deserves the credit for "New Kopitar."


And stats don't tell the whole story, but...

AK PPG AVG w/ JW in the lineup: 1.57
AK PPG AVG w/ out JW in the lineup: 1.60
A .03 difference? You are right stats don't tell the whole story. That equates to less than 3 points over the course of a full season. Williams is still at a PPG pace 1 1/2 months into the season. My only issue is if Williams can stay healthy otherwise I'd have already bumped my "Will Justin Williams outscore Patrick O'SUllivan" poll/thread from last spring.

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and btw, this team needs a fricken spark plug when it comes to some physical/edgy play. they were thrown around like rag dolls for most of the game tonight and i saw numerous "runs" by the other team and nothing in response, not even a face wash. i'm all about the wins but that CRAP will not fly come playoff time and they should be practicing it if they think they are going to make the playoffs at all.
This is why you play Ivanas. Not for his offensive skill but to police the other team.

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11-12-2009, 12:31 PM
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This is why you play Ivanas. Not for his offensive skill but to police the other team.
We need a spark plug. Ivanans is a fire hydrant. For the Canes, one of Gleason/ Kotsopolous / Walker does more in one shift to provide a little sandpaper than RI does over the course of a full game.

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We need a spark plug. Ivanans is a fire hydrant. For the Canes, one of Gleason/ Kotsopolous / Walker does more in one shift to provide a little sandpaper than RI does over the course of a full game.
Isn't Clune supposed to fill that role.....someday?

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11-12-2009, 01:16 PM
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We need a spark plug. Ivanans is a fire hydrant. For the Canes, one of Gleason/ Kotsopolous / Walker does more in one shift to provide a little sandpaper than RI does over the course of a full game.
I miss Gleason.

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11-12-2009, 03:01 PM
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I miss Gleason.
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11-12-2009, 03:19 PM
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Jones will continue to play as long as the kings win and/or he doesn't **** up. I guess the old man OD's gonna sit another game. Unless, TM decides to sit 44DD in lieu of OD.

Feel bad for OD but it's more about the team unfortunately.

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I miss Gleason.
If the kings never traded Gleason, my guess is he would have been our captain and not Brownie.

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Feel bad for OD but it's more about the team unfortunately.
When you feel bad remember that OD ran out of gas late last season and He's a year older this season.

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11-12-2009, 04:07 PM
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Dont forget everyone, Luc will be on the Jay Leno show tonight!

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When you feel bad remember that OD ran out of gas late last season and He's a year older this season.
Yea, it would be nice to keep OD around 60-70 games for the regular season.

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11-12-2009, 04:23 PM
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We need a spark plug. Ivanans is a fire hydrant. For the Canes, one of Gleason/ Kotsopolous / Walker does more in one shift to provide a little sandpaper than RI does over the course of a full game.
This is why Kyle Clifford lasted so long in camp...we don't have someone like that.

Go down the list....All these teams have a middleweight or light heavy who plays regularly...Last night only one King in the top 12 forwards could scrap, Simmonds.

Anaheim: Mike Brown
Atlanta: Colby Armstrong
Boston: Byron Bitz, Steve Begin
Buffalo: Paul Gaustad, Adam Mair
Calgary: Brandon Prust, Erik Nystrom
Carolina: Scott Walker, Tom Kostopolous
Chicago: Fraser, Eager
Colorado: McLeod, Hendricks
Columbus: Dorsett
Dallas: Sutherby, Ott
Detroit: Wussies....ok May and Maltby.
Edmonton: Jacques, Stone, Stortini
Florida: Campbell
Wild: Clutterbuck
Montreal: Moen, Stewart
Nashville: Tootoo, Smithson
New Jersey: Clarkson
New York: Avery, Voros
Isles: Jackman
Ottawa; Ruutu, Neil
Flyers: Carcillo, Lappy, Asham
Phoenix: Pyatt can scrap and Bissonette is more a light heavy
Pittsburgh: Cooke, Rupp
San Jose: Staubitz
St Louis: Crombeen, Winchester
Tampa: Downie, Konopka
Toronto: Mayers
Canucks: Glass, Rypien
Caps: Bradley


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This is why Kyle Clifford lasted so long in camp...we don't have someone like that.
by singling this out you are essentially minimizing Clifford's overall performance at camp. pretty eye opening play overall for a head scratcher of a draft pick.

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by singling this out you are essentially minimizing Clifford's overall performance at camp. pretty eye opening play overall for a head scratcher of a draft pick.
He played well too in camp, I love the way Kyle plays, he is my favorite King not yet in LA besides Westgarth and Clune.

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11-12-2009, 04:51 PM
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Basically this team needs a Lappy type player (and not lappy now old, but Lappy in his prime). A guy who will fight anyone, regardless of who they are or how big they are, but it's a liability. Not to mention, Lappy could get a few points here and there. One of my all time favorite kings. This team misses a guy like that.

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11-12-2009, 05:01 PM
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Basically this team needs a Lappy type player (and not lappy now old, but Lappy in his prime). A guy who will fight anyone, regardless of who they are or how big they are, but it's a liability. Not to mention, Lappy could get a few points here and there. One of my all time favorite kings. This team misses a guy like that.
Let's hope the "Big Red Dog" can fill those shoes

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11-12-2009, 05:06 PM
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Basically this team needs a Lappy type player (and not lappy now old, but Lappy in his prime). A guy who will fight anyone, regardless of who they are or how big they are, but it's a liability. Not to mention, Lappy could get a few points here and there. One of my all time favorite kings. This team misses a guy like that.
Exactly...what the hell happened to Greene and Simmonds...they have been way too nice recently to the opposition.

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If dumpie Kings fan = dude with black crown jersey, purple (well it use to be) hat, holding a two year old in a white chevy logo kings jersey, and sitting next to a wife in a purple crown third jersey then that was me (5 rows behind the Kings bench). The Canes fans around me were once again really cool (I go to 6 or so games a year, so I expected nothing less) and lt me and the boy move up to the third row while some spent part of the game up top eating and drinking. This was my boys first Kings game (4th Canes game) and the closest he has ever sat. He was so distracted by the games he never ate his soft pretz.... for him, that is an amazing detail. Anyway, he spent the majority of the game pointing at Quick, Ersberg, and Legs while yelling goalie or pointing and the puck and saying dadda, puck!. Needless to say, it was a blast just watching him.

The game was good too. Carolina is reduced to a very physical team. Even players not normally physical are having to step it up because the just lack viable skill right now. That isn't surprising, the needed to scrap the plan this summer and instead tried more band aids. The team is too old, too slow, and too injured to thrive and that was obvious in the offseason. Fortunately for them, they have some solid kids waiting to make the jump so a few smart moves this offseason might give them more of a Philly style rebuild instead of having to start from scratch.

As far as the Kings and this game... well, they could have had 2-3 more goals if they would have crashed the net more/better. Legs was giving up rebounds all night and at times struggled on his recovery slides when he lost track of the puck (maybe too much paddle down or hunching over... hard to tell without watching film or rewatching the game which apparently I forgot to set to record on the DVR... stupid me). Unfortunately for the Kings, they weren't able to take much advantage of this... but with 5 scored, they didn't need too.

Overall Jones seemed to play pretty well and while I don't see more than an adequate 3rd pairing dman in him because he seemed to get lost at times, he his great depth to have. He reminded me a bit of a kid with ADD. When they play hockey there are times when you just can't figure out what they are watching as the puck/player moves by them and then suddenly they snap to attention and get back in the play (I run into this coaching Pee Wees).

It is a shame the weather was so bad, Cane fans tailgate like it is college football. Oh well, I still got to enjoy a BBQ before the game got started. Nothing like eating the mascot, especially while wearing the oppositions jersey.

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11-12-2009, 05:33 PM
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If dumpie Kings fan = dude with black crown jersey, purple (well it use to be) hat, holding a two year old in a white chevy logo kings jersey, and sitting next to a wife in a purple crown third jersey then that was me (5 rows behind the Kings bench). The Canes fans around me were once again really cool (I go to 6 or so games a year, so I expected nothing less) and lt me and the boy move up to the third row while some spent part of the game up top eating and drinking. This was my boys first Kings game (4th Canes game) and the closest he has ever sat. He was so distracted by the games he never ate his soft pretz.... for him, that is an amazing detail. Anyway, he spent the majority of the game pointing at Quick, Ersberg, and Legs while yelling goalie or pointing and the puck and saying dadda, puck!. Needless to say, it was a blast just watching him.

The game was good too. Carolina is reduced to a very physical team. Even players not normally physical are having to step it up because the just lack viable skill right now. That isn't surprising, the needed to scrap the plan this summer and instead tried more band aids. The team is too old, too slow, and too injured to thrive and that was obvious in the offseason. Fortunately for them, they have some solid kids waiting to make the jump so a few smart moves this offseason might give them more of a Philly style rebuild instead of having to start from scratch.

As far as the Kings and this game... well, they could have had 2-3 more goals if they would have crashed the net more/better. Legs was giving up rebounds all night and at times struggled on his recovery slides when he lost track of the puck (maybe too much paddle down or hunching over... hard to tell without watching film or rewatching the game which apparently I forgot to set to record on the DVR... stupid me). Unfortunately for the Kings, they weren't able to take much advantage of this... but with 5 scored, they didn't need too.

Overall Jones seemed to play pretty well and while I don't see more than an adequate 3rd pairing dman in him because he seemed to get lost at times, he his great depth to have. He reminded me a bit of a kid with ADD. When they play hockey there are times when you just can't figure out what they are watching as the puck/player moves by them and then suddenly they snap to attention and get back in the play (I run into this coaching Pee Wees).

It is a shame the weather was so bad, Cane fans tailgate like it is college football. Oh well, I still got to enjoy a BBQ before the game got started. Nothing like eating the mascot, especially while wearing the oppositions jersey.
Ignore the haterz. Glad you had a good time and your boy got to see a Kings win.

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Ignore the haterz. Glad you had a good time and your boy got to see a Kings win.
eh, I know what I weigh in at so its not surprising nor insulting if someone else notices. I'm a big dude, but I still get around the ice so I deal with it. So no hating goin on... course if it wasn't me they were referring to, then never mind.

Also, looks like my e and y keys are sticking sometimes. So if I'm missing letters, my many sorries etc.

I really like the way Parse plays but I think I am ready to give Purcell a try on a scoring line again. Also, Zus looked tired last night. Maybe give Richardson some additional ice time unless Parse or Purcell can fill in at center.

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eh, I know what I weigh in at so its not surprising nor insulting if someone else notices. I'm a big dude, but I still get around the ice so I deal with it. So no hating goin on... course if it wasn't me they were referring to, then never mind.

Also, looks like my e and y keys are sticking sometimes. So if I'm missing letters, my many sorries etc.

I really like the way Parse plays but I think I am ready to give Purcell a try on a scoring line again. Also, Zus looked tired last night. Maybe give Richardson some additional ice time unless Parse or Purcell can fill in at center.
Wish I would have known you were there......I might have come over to talk Kings hockey with you. Most of the Kings fans I saw at the arena did not even really acknowledge each other.

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Not one word for Frolov yet? Dude was dominant tonight, which makes perfect sense given that not one dressed Canes defensemen could crack our starting lineup.
im sorry I would take Tim gleason back in heart beat. I miss timmy

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im sorry I would take Tim gleason back in heart beat. I miss timmy


Its all about Timmmah!!!!

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