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11-13-2009, 09:29 PM
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brutal game, we were owning them and they get a lucky break and score, then a breakaway of another misplay they score, Quick shoulda stopped the 3rd one they score, Ersberg comes in they score. We lost the fights as well, it sucked to watch, it will be a good game to see if the young team rebounds or folds for the rest of the week.

I have never said anything negative about the guy but I don't like Murray's line ups.

1st line stays put

I don't like the Fro - Handzus - Simmonds line, all they do is cycle. Frolov should be up on the second line setting up Stoll with Brown there to swat in rebounds.

3rd line = Handzus, Simmonds, and trade for someone that can hit. make a shutdown line. Simmonds needs 15 lbs. Hopefully in 2 years it will be Schenn w Clifford and Simmonds. Scary hard hitters that can play defense and score.

4th line - when is Clune ready, we need an energy line with skating and size. It is to the point where I would welcome Zeiler back. Philly was smart in signing Lappy. This is a young team and he would have shown them leadership through grit and determination. I can't be to hard on Richardson as he bust his ass, but he just isn't a 4th line guy.

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One touchdown and we would have been right back in the game.

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11-13-2009, 09:30 PM
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Seriously Im going to pull my eyes out of my ****en head if I see Terry throw Richardson Ivannans and Harrold on the ice everytime the other team scores a goal. They havent scored a ****en goal all season. Ever since the Penguins game this team has been playing like garbage. Hopefully this is the reality check that they need.
I don't know if they'll ever get one. After every game, Murray basically says..."you know, we played within the system and I was happy with the effort but we just didn't get any breaks you know."

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11-13-2009, 09:32 PM
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I don't know if they'll ever get one. After every game, Murray basically says..."you know, we played within the system and I was happy with the effort but we just didn't get any breaks you know."
He doesn't always say that.

After the Nashville (?) game he was asked if there was anything positive to take from the game and said: "No." I would expect something similar tonight.

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11-13-2009, 09:32 PM
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I think TM just really enjoys watching Fro - Zeus - Simmonds line cycle and muck and grind along the boards creating zero offense.
This is actually becoming a great concern...they are killing time with little result...

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11-13-2009, 09:32 PM
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He doesn't always say that.

After the Nashville (?) game he was asked if there was anything positive to take from the game and said: "No." I would expect something similar tonight.
Well that reality check worked well then.

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11-13-2009, 09:34 PM
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Forget about it....move on to tomorrow.

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11-13-2009, 09:35 PM
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damn tough game. I haven't fast forwarded through a game in a long time. It's sad it had to be done tonight.

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11-13-2009, 09:36 PM
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Will the game be on tomorrow? I thought I heard something about not beeing televized.

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I'll pull a page from the Captain Ron playbook and point out that if Quick stood on his head and only let in that kinda fluky first goal, we'd still have lost. 7 goals is bad but 0 goals is an equally important stat in assessing this game.

Tomorrow's big. If they win, we can just shake our heads at this one. If they come out badly, you have to wonder about the mental makeup of the team. These games DO happen to everyone. These games DO NOT derail good teams. Tomorrow will tell us a lot about this team.
There is truth to this. No game occurs in a vacuum. However, hockey is the sport of momentum. A bad goal, followed by another changes the entire complexion of the game. It is akin to a boxing match where two good punches land back to back. What generally follows? A flurry of punches, duck and cover and very little punches from the recipient. I did not see the game but if 2 out of the first 3 goals by Quick were bad goals, this game falls predominantly on Quick's shoulders.

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11-13-2009, 09:37 PM
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I think Zues really needs to take a break. He looked way to weak and tired out there.

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11-13-2009, 09:39 PM
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I like how everyone one is talking about the bad goal tending and completely ignoring the horrible defense and the big fat 0 in the goals column for the Kings.

Edit: Damn you Hans!
We're talking about goaltending because only one team had it tonight. Can you really say that the Kings didn't have a ton of great chances to score tonight?

When was the last time the Kings had a goalie steal a game when the offense wasn't there?

Kings 38 - 21 Thrashers (shots)

Kings players without a minus: Harrold, Ivanans, Parse, Richardson and Scuderi.

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11-13-2009, 09:40 PM
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I wouldn't say anyone on the back end was particularly good, but I think Jack was probably the best back there tonight.

Jones wasn't good at all, and neither were the DDs.
thanks for responding. All in all it's seems like a good thing i had to work tonight.

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11-13-2009, 09:40 PM
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There is truth to this. No game occurs in a vacuum. However, hockey is the sport of momentum. A bad goal, followed by another changes the entire complexion of the game. It is akin to a boxing match where two good punches land back to back. What generally follows? A flurry of punches, duck and cover and very little punches from the recipient. I did not see the game but if 2 out of the first 3 goals by Quick were bad goals, this game falls predominantly on Quick's shoulders.
I agree, if Frolov scores on his breakaway, the Kings don't lose 7-1 tonight. Big saves are just as important as goals. If Quick stops Kovy on that breakaway, that would be a huge lift for the Kings and maybe they score to tie it at 1 instead of being down 2-0.


edit: I would only call the Bogo goal a bad goal. Kovy on a breakaway would take a big save, which Quick didn't make (that made it 2-0).

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11-13-2009, 09:41 PM
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One touchdown and we would have been right back in the game.
Na, we would've missed the extra point.

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11-13-2009, 09:41 PM
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We're talking about goaltending because only one team had it tonight. Can you really say that the Kings didn't have a ton of great chances to score tonight?

When was the last time the Kings had a goalie steal a game when the offense wasn't there?

Kings 38 - 21 Thrashers (shots)

Kings players without a minus: Harrold, Ivanans, Parse, Richardson and Scuderi.
Yes......but if the Kings lost 2-0 would you still blame the goaltending?

Also the Thrashers had a ton of breakaways....was that Quick's fault?

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11-13-2009, 09:42 PM
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I think Zues really needs to take a break. He looked way to weak and tired out there.
I agree, unfortunatly we don't even have a center good enough to play on the 4th line let alone the 3rd to take Zues place

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11-13-2009, 09:44 PM
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Yes......but if the Kings lost 2-0 would you still blame the goaltending?

Also the Thrashers had a ton of breakaways....was that Quick's fault?
Actually, Ersberg faced most of the breakaways. Quick only gave up the Kovy breakaway.

This game fell apart quickly (no pun intended). I don't blame the goaltending for the loss, but you have to be concerned with the number of long range, unscreened goals that Quick is giving up this year. He is towards the bottom of the league in save percentage.

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11-13-2009, 09:45 PM
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Trashers scored on every third shot...that is something for stats.

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11-13-2009, 09:50 PM
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Since Lombardi failed on getting Gaborik, he needs to succeed with getting Kovalchuk.

Atlanta does look good enough to make the playoffs in the East though and that may be enough for Kovy to resign with Atlanta.

BTW - Tampa hasn't lost in regulation at home.

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11-13-2009, 10:11 PM
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Since Lombardi failed on getting Gaborik, he needs to succeed with getting Kovalchuk.

Atlanta does look good enough to make the playoffs in the East though and that may be enough for Kovy to resign with Atlanta.

BTW - Tampa hasn't lost in regulation at home.
It is very likely for Kovalchuk to not even reach free agency. Atlanta will lock him up. They lose him, they fold.

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11-13-2009, 10:13 PM
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BTW - Tampa hasn't lost in regulation at home.
Optimism: Pitt hadn't lost on the road until they played us.

PSP: We're ****ed.

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11-13-2009, 10:17 PM
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Will the game be on tomorrow? I thought I heard something about not beeing televized.
It'll be televized, but not by FSWest

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We need O'D back in there, and does anyone know if the game will be televised tomorrow?

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11-13-2009, 10:20 PM
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Thank god for the fast forward button.

Wierd game.....things looked fine right until that first goal where Kopitar lost his man behind the Kings net...it went seriously downhill from there.....
I'd have to say the turnover by Handzus after the Kings had been in total control during that shift and the shift before it. He was the 3rd man high and didn't need that extra stick handle trying to do more than he needed, which caused him to give it right to Kovi and the breakaway goal. I thought during that shift it was only a matter of time before we scored. Boy was I wrong.

The third goal, Quick was still thinking about the Kovi goal as it went in. The team quit right after that.

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