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11-15-2009, 01:42 PM
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What about this (when Gionta comes back):

Cammalleri-Gomez-Gionta
S.Kost-Plek-A. Kost (With the way Plek is playing this season, i really have a good feeling about this line)
Pacioretty-Metropolit-Latendresse (lets try him on the left see what he can do)
White-Lapierre-Pyatt

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11-15-2009, 01:43 PM
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What about this (when Gionta comes back):

Cammalleri-Gomez-Gionta
S.Kost-Plek-A. Kost
Pacioretty-Metropolit-Latendresse (lets try him on the left see what he can do)
White-Lapierre-Pyatt
What happened to Moen?

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11-15-2009, 01:44 PM
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What about this (when Gionta comes back):

Cammalleri-Gomez-Gionta
S.Kost-Plek-A. Kost
Pacioretty-Metropolit-Moen
White-Lapierre-Pyatt
Fixed

Fats should be benched as long as he doesnt get his role with the team.

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11-15-2009, 01:50 PM
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What happened to Moen?
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Fixed

Fats should be benched as long as he doesnt get his role with the team.
Yup forgot.

Cammalleri-Gomez-Gionta
Sergei-Plek-Andrei
Pacio-Metro-Tender
Laraque/Pyatt-Lapierre-Moen

A real 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th line.

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11-15-2009, 01:59 PM
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Call up sergei, is it that hard?

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11-15-2009, 02:00 PM
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Call up sergei, is it that hard?
yes.

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11-15-2009, 02:11 PM
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Kostitsyn has been playing well, and you put him on the 4th line? What the hell?
Its beyond stupid to put him on the 4th line again.

I would love to hear A. Kosti. and S. Kosti give their honest opinion about Martin, with no chance for more punishment for being....honest.

Who wants to play for a Coach who keeps punishing them all the time?


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11-15-2009, 02:15 PM
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SK74-TP14-AK46 is the closest thing we can have to a second line.
Seriously, Pleks with White and Pyatt reeks of fail even before touching the ice.
Pleks is one of our better players and he deserves better than White, Pyatt and Lapierre. Give him wingers that at least have some offensive flair.

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11-15-2009, 02:31 PM
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WHITE - PLEKY - PYATT




Jacques Martin IS BRUTAL LOL


Whos gonna watch Canes game ?

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11-15-2009, 02:33 PM
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Dont worry boys... Next game is against the Hurricanes, it will be an easy game for the Habs and 2 pts in the bank.

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11-15-2009, 02:35 PM
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Dont worry boys... Next game is against the Hurricanes, it will be an easy game for the Habs and 2 pts in the bank.
We won't win.

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11-15-2009, 02:38 PM
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We won't win.

Habs cant lose at home vs the Canes... That's impossible. Maybe a OT win tough.

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11-15-2009, 02:41 PM
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Habs cant lose at home vs the Canes... That's impossible. Maybe a OT win tough.
Canes will be pumped, they know the Habs are ripe for the picking right now

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11-15-2009, 02:44 PM
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All of you SK lovers do realize that he has 3 goals in 12 games in THE AHL!!!! The team is also 9-2 so there are plenty of talented player for him to play with.

Welcome back BGL!!!

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Habs cant lose at home vs the Canes... That's impossible. Maybe a OT win tough.
Price can't stop 53 pucks everytime, and lines at practice won't score on 5v5.

Cammy - Gomez - Metro = no goals. Come on now, Gomez line havent scored 5v5 for like what, 12 games ?

White - Plek - Pyatt = speaks for itself

(ps : plek wont resign to montreal)

Lats Lapierre Moen = epic fail french line (poor Moen)

Laraque-Chipchura-Kostitsyn = ROFL. Kostitsyn won't skate. He's been our best player, and there he is, again, on the fourth line. Laraque wouldnt fight if we were behind by 5 goals

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11-15-2009, 02:46 PM
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Guys, have faith!

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11-15-2009, 02:58 PM
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Max is centering the third line if you look at the practice lineup again.
Wow I have no idea how I over read that lol. But yea I also think sergei should be brought up. Getting kind of rediculous now, the guy should have made the team in the first place.

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11-15-2009, 04:04 PM
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Price can't stop 53 pucks everytime, and lines at practice won't score on 5v5.

Cammy - Gomez - Metro = no goals. Come on now, Gomez line havent scored 5v5 for like what, 12 games ?

White - Plek - Pyatt = speaks for itself

(ps : plek wont resign to montreal)

Lats Lapierre Moen = epic fail french line (poor Moen)

Laraque-Chipchura-Kostitsyn = ROFL. Kostitsyn won't skate. He's been our best player, and there he is, again, on the fourth line. Laraque wouldnt fight if we were behind by 5 goals
God awful lines.

Does Martin really think Metro is the answer on the first line?

Does he think White and Pyatt will do any scoring with Pleks?

Does he really expect A. Kosti to play better with Laraque and Chips?

Chips line has NOT SCORED A GOAL ALL YEAR.

And while you are at it get Gomez off the half-board position on the PP. Get someone with a good shot there like Kovalev. As of now the other team only needs to keep the Habs from getting a good point shot on net. They have not shown they are dangerous in any other way on the PP most of the time. Easy to defend against.

J. Martin needs to pull his head out of the Grinder Mind set and put some players with some real talent on the first lines.

The coach needs an awareness check. Wake up and call up S. Kosti and he will show you that you made a mistake by sending him down. He has more offensive ability than Metro, White and Pyatt conbined. But that of course would show that you made a mistake. Can't do that now can we. God don't you just love close minded coaches??

He is a very unflexable coach.

Part of a coaches job is to develop young talent. J. Martin is not doing that.



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11-15-2009, 04:08 PM
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I'm not a firm believer of line changing until finding the rightful combination.

Personally, I'd put Cammy-Gomez-A.Kost and Gionta-Plek-Lats (until D'Ago comes back at least).
Those 6players are currently our most offensively talented players.
I'd keep those lines intact for 10ish games.
I'd keep the Metro-MaxPac-Moen line intact and put Lappy with Pyatt-White.
The 2bottom lines can be either 3rd or 4th depending on their play each game. The 4th line would see very limited ice time as I'd roll mostly 3 lines.
When we're trailing by 1 goal in the 3rd, then I'd put our top 3 together.

At some point, we'll have to let our players play. Switching them around isn't making things necessarily better. Finding short term solutions isn't what we need either.
Plek-Pyatt and White might work for a game or two, but will eventually crumble. So what's the point?..Better off sacrificing a few games in order to get some solid chemistry out of a top 6.

I'm not ready to criticize Martin though. In his fairness, not too many players are giving him any reasons to go with them.

I'm a firm A.Kost defender because of his undeniable skills, but even though he's been playing better, it's useless if he can't produce.
That being said, I don't think putting him along side Chipper and Laraque/Stewart will get him out of his funk.

I think the mistake was made earlier this year, before the season started, when they sent S.Kost down. Not because it affected A.Kost's play or focus, but simply due to the fact we wouldn't have to worry about them building chemistry.

Jacques Martin spoke about duos during camp. I think he complicated his life by sending S.Kost down.
Gomez-Gionta undeniable chemistry. Proven.
A.Kost-S.Kost undeniable chemistry. Proven.
Lats-Laps undeniable chemistry. Proven.
Plek-Cammy was the only unproven duo.

Sending S.Kost down meant A.Kost being a complement. That didn't work out. A Plek-A.Kost duo didn't work out. Lats and Laps were moved around and lost their touch in the process. They seem lost.
The duo theory of Martin turned into one solid trio.

I'm not saying we'd be necessarily better with S.Kost. But at this point, it's tough to argue we'd be worse.

Main reason I'm not ready to criticize Martin though, is because we'd be much better off if we had a healthy roster.

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11-15-2009, 04:25 PM
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Martin makes it very difficult to like him after putting up these combos.

I'll wait though, because Sergei actually could be recalled in the next few days. But in my opinion, everybody's to blame right now, the coach as well as the players. You have to get some sense at some point. Even under Claude Julien, players cheat from time to time. That's how you get scoring chances.

I seriously can't see what Kostitsyn was doing wrong yesterday, hell, he was even the first guy to backcheck. He puts a lot of effort into it lately. We're going to lose him.

Just watch him and his brah get traded and become a nice dynamic 70 points per year for each player duo in the next 15 years.

I'm ****ing tired of seeing coaches aleniate our talented forwards. Once again, scouting isn't the problem. Development is. And it's a ****ing big issue you've got to solve.

Put players in their ****ing roles, for christ sake!

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11-15-2009, 04:26 PM
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a healthy roster and a good coach that's all I am asking for.

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11-15-2009, 04:30 PM
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Call up sergei, is it that hard?
Martin is as bad as Carbo so far. You play one way, or you don't play at all. Great ****ing ****!

We have one of the most talented players in the system in the AHL right now, and we're playing Laraque, Chipchura, Pyatt, Leach and White for christ sake!

This team is starting to lose some of its players, and it's starting to lose some of its fans.

The more this **** goes on, the less I'm actually interested in following this hockey club. I'll always pull for my Habs, but this is getting laughable.

I wasn't in the "clean up the management" bandwaggon, but the more I see of this ****, the closer I am to jump in it. How can two completely different coaches (Martin and Boucher) talk completely differently about the same freaking player in a one month span?! You just can't explain it! One of them is in the left field, and seeing how players play under Boucher/how players evolve under his teaching vs how players play/evolve under Martin, we can't do anything but stating the obvious.

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11-15-2009, 04:35 PM
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What a joke. Why don't we give Sergei just one more chance?

Nice to see O'Byrne is back though!

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11-15-2009, 04:38 PM
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What a joke. Why don't we give Sergei just one more chance?

Nice to see O'Byrne is back though!
Because he's almost missing buses. Players arriving to the bus station 15 minutes before the departure helps our team to win games soooo ****ing much after all...

We're going to be an offensive power in this league with White and Pyatt on the top-6.

And what to say about Jay Leach on defense? Incredible!

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wow our focking teams su cks, would rather have kovalev, koivu and higgins back.

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