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Toronto Raptors players talk about the NHL lockout

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12-11-2004, 10:54 PM
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Toronto Raptors players talk about the NHL lockout

http://www.tsn.ca/nba/news_story.asp...79&hubName=nba

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Well David Stern was harsh saying he was going on winter vacation if they didnt want to negotiate. The players in the NBA did the right thing, and look they make huge amounts of money to this day, they accepted a soft cap, yet payrolls and salaries are huge. NHL players are just plain greedy.

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Or shortsighted. Even with a hard cap, the players could potentially make more money than they do right now because revenues will grow due to an even economic playing field, increased national interest and a bigger TV deal. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

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Or shortsighted. Even with a hard cap, the players could potentially make more money than they do right now because revenues will grow due to an even economic playing field, increased national interest and a bigger TV deal. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
no way would the players take a cap. How do they know that the NHL will get stronger. Players could potentially lose money with a cap.

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no way would the players take a cap. How do they know that the NHL will get stronger. Players could potentially lose money with a cap.
Kind of like they are losing more money now trying to prevent a cap?

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Well David Stern was harsh saying he was going on winter vacation if they didnt want to negotiate. The players in the NBA did the right thing, and look they make huge amounts of money to this day, they accepted a soft cap, yet payrolls and salaries are huge. NHL players are just plain greedy.
The NBA and NHL are very different. The top tier players in the NBA sold out the rank and file when they mde their deal.

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It must be shocking to the basketball players that all hockey players are taking a cut in salary, and the superstars more than most. They prefer the strategy of superstars breaking ranks with union, and letting the non-stars suffer. This league of men who fight like girls bends over pretty easy in a fight.

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It's very hard to compare any of the sports with each other when basing the decision on what economic system the league should accept. Not only because of the difference in popularity, TV revenue, merchandice sales, etc. but also because of how different the games generally are.

Comparing the NBA to the NHL, the high profile players can still be making large amounts of money even with a hard cap, simply because their lineups aren't as big. On any given night, a team will play no more than 8 or 9 players, even if the bench contributes alot to the team's success.

But I agree, other teams in other leagues must be shocked that the NHLPA has put forward this proposal, even though it's almost clearly evident that the NHL will reject the deal.

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It's very hard to compare any of the sports with each other when basing the decision on what economic system the league should accept. Not only because of the difference in popularity, TV revenue, merchandice sales, etc. but also because of how different the games generally are.

Comparing the NBA to the NHL, the high profile players can still be making large amounts of money even with a hard cap, simply because their lineups aren't as big. On any given night, a team will play no more than 8 or 9 players, even if the bench contributes alot to the team's success.

But I agree, other teams in other leagues must be shocked that the NHLPA has put forward this proposal, even though it's almost clearly evident that the NHL will reject the deal.

Maybe the NHL should accept it, as a one season deal. Take rollback, make money in the playoff and then restart the entire bargaining process again July (complete with another lockout). By June the players might have accepted the 24% paycut as the norm and be happier to deal on issues such as a soft/hard cap.

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Maybe the NHL should accept it, as a one season deal. Take rollback, make money in the playoff and then restart the entire bargaining process again July (complete with another lockout). By June the players might have accepted the 24% paycut as the norm and be happier to deal on issues such as a soft/hard cap.
...and Jeremy Roenick should buy me a beer.

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