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11-29-2009, 10:08 AM
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How good is Dale Weise?

Has anyone had a chance to see him regularly this year? He seems like a good prospect. Almost a point per game as a 21-year-old and +9. He is also 6-foot-2 206 pounds.

He has 26 penalty minutes. Is that a good sign or bad? Was he playing tough or stupid?

I think he might be a solid player for us, beginning next season. Everyone has Byers pegged as our fourth liner with Boyle and Brash next year, but could Weise be a better option?

Many here believe that Boyle has some potential, so would not he be better off with a more skilled player like Weise than a banger like Byers? If Byers can't hit even 60 points in the AHL as a 24 year old, what are the odds that he'll wind up scoring in the NHL even on third line level (12-15 goals, 20-22 assists).


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He could be a Callahan type player or a Boyle he needs to find consistency

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11-29-2009, 12:45 PM
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An excellent young right winger, who has third line potential. The Rangers are very high on him, but are letting him develop in the AHL at this point. The organization is not deep at all in this position, and although it was their intent to have him play the entire season in the AHL, they may call him up at some point and give him a try.

Personally, I think he should be kept in Hartford for at least a couple more months.

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An excellent young right winger, who has third line potential. The Rangers are very high on him, but are letting him develop in the AHL at this point. The organization is not deep at all in this position, and although it was their intent to have him play the entire season in the AHL, they may call him up at some point and give him a try.

Personally, I think he should be kept in Hartford for at least a couple more months.
I agree. I think a full year in Hartford will do wonders for his game. And his confidence as well.

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11-29-2009, 01:26 PM
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I agree with Leslie and NYR2k2 about keeping him in the minors for now. I am big on letting kids develop and not rushing him. I would play in Hart until the end of the season and then let him take a run at making the team during the pre-season.

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11-29-2009, 01:38 PM
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I agree with Leslie and NYR2k2 about keeping him in the minors for now. I am big on letting kids develop and not rushing him. I would play in Hart until the end of the season and then let him take a run at making the team during the pre-season.
Same. I just cringe when thinking about what we did to Malhotra by rushing him. In recent years we have done a very good job of fully developing players before testing them. A lot of teams would have just stuck Sanguinetti and Anisimov in the NHL last year and hoped for the best. Instead we were patient and look at how far they have progressed since. That's why I don't want Grachev anywhere near the NHL this year. It's just not worth it. He's 19 and in his first pro season. We'll see how he looks in training camp next year.

My point being this, ultimately. COULD Weise play in the NHL right now? Maybe. Is it worth finding out at this point? No. He wouldn't really be an upgrade over anybody, and he's only 21 years old and in his 2nd professional season. Let him spend a full year in Hartford and we'll see what he looks like next year.

I wasn't a fan of Weise initially when we picked him, but he's been as good as you could realistically expect a late 4th round pick to be.

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11-29-2009, 02:00 PM
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I love the 2008 draft.

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Weise is pretty damn good. He's been one of my favorites to watch this year and last. He's come on strong lately. Definitely look out for him next year. And yeah those penalty minutes are from him playing mostly tough, he isn't afraid to drop the gloves.

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11-29-2009, 05:56 PM
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I agree with Leslie and NYR2k2 about keeping him in the minors for now. I am big on letting kids develop and not rushing him. I would play in Hart until the end of the season and then let him take a run at making the team during the pre-season.
It's a good philosophy--let's hope the next time Valliquette has a bad game people follow it regarding Johnson too.

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11-29-2009, 06:05 PM
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I know he was our prospects captain, any future captaincy potential?

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I know he was our prospects captain, any future captaincy potential?
Yes, he is most definitely a leader. Giving him the captaincy in Traverse City was an excellent idea. I constantly saw him taking the lead on things, pushing his teammates and giving them support when needed. I was impressed with his leadership capabilities.

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Weise is pretty damn good. He's been one of my favorites to watch this year and last. He's come on strong lately. Definitely look out for him next year. And yeah those penalty minutes are from him playing mostly tough, he isn't afraid to drop the gloves.

Well if he can "drop the gloves"...that's one step in the right direction .

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I love the 2008 draft.
Makes up for all the pain of Montoya/Jessiman

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Makes up for all the pain of Montoya/Jessiman
Not yet. Let's see how the 2008 draft pans out.

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11-30-2009, 06:40 AM
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Saw him play on saturday against Providence, definitely threw his body, went to the net, and had pretty good wheels. 3rd line potential sounds about right, unfortunately no one really stood out to me at all, maybe potter looked most ready for the nhl, but grachev has a long way to go and the wolfpack can't really provide too much help other than potter and byers at this point

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