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12-01-2009, 10:41 AM
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Joe Corvo out 2 to 3 months

http://hurricanes.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=508109

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Corvo suffered a laceration of his lower right leg from the skate of Capitals defenseman Karl Alzner during a collision in the first period of the game, and was transported to Rex Hospital. There, Dr. Marty Isbell of Raleigh Orthopaedic Clinic performed surgery to repair the injuries suffered. Corvo is expected to miss 8-12 weeks of action.
Get better soon Joe. 8-12 weeks would be between January 26 and February 23. I imagine the best thing to do would be to just keep him out through the Olympic break so he has extra time to rest, and shoot for a return date of March 2 at Toronto. The trade deadline happens to be the next day, March 3.

If JR had a trade in the works involving him I guess he waited a bit too long to pull the trigger; value destroyed now.

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Wish him a full recovery.

He'll be back right at the deadline with a questionable value.

With Corvo out and Pitkanen constantly in and out of the lineup-Canes defense will be exactly what we need to keep this team firmly stationed at the #30 spot for the remainder of the season.

I should think that if team management had even slightest hopes to make a recovery it was forgotten by now


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I'm waiting for a mid-week lower body concern to come Pitkanen's way, clearing the way for Rodney and another to come up from Albany.

It's pretty sad that the first thing I thought of when I saw this news was, "well there goes any trade value he had".

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Does anyone else think maybe we could end up re-signing Joe, especially after this? There's a big part of me that wants us to hang on to him this season and then try to get him signed to a new deal. This should theoretically bring down his asking price.

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I think we could resign Corvo, assuming he wants to stay here. We don't have the high end defensive prospects to surely replace someone like we do up front. This will definitely lower his asking price.

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Rodney gets an extended look now. But that leaves Cullen as a trigger man and whatever other forward they can cobble in as a trigger (Cole last night.)

I hope he is able to come back sooner, but DaleCooper has a good handle on the likely schedule due to the Olympic break. Then again, if Corvo can recuperate more quickly and prove his health before the Olympics, he could get a shot at a playoff and contract run after the Olympics, which would be pretty good motivation for him.

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Better then I was expecting to hear to be honest. His value is not going to be up to par though unless he's at the low end of that return timeframe (putting him back a month before the deadline) and comes back strong.

It may be in our best interests to re-sign Joe on a one or two year deal this offseason at this point.

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Does anyone else think maybe we could end up re-signing Joe, especially after this? There's a big part of me that wants us to hang on to him this season and then try to get him signed to a new deal. This should theoretically bring down his asking price.
I would like to re-sign him myself. I think we could use him. How long did Alberts sign for, was it 1 or 2 years? Right now, we've got Pitkanen and Gleason back and maybe Alberts. Rodney will likely be here since he seems to be their call up guy, but not sure he's ready for Top 4 work yet.

Anyway, its all my fault. I had just got done telling the boyfriend that Joe will be traded at the deadline b/c a contending team could use him. Then bam, this happens. Glad it wasn't his achilles though, was worried about that.

Get well Joe.

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Wish him a full recovery.

He'll be back right at the deadline with a questionable value.

With Corvo our and Pitkanen constantly in and out of the lineup-Canes defense will be exactly what we need to keep this team firmly stationed at the #30 spot for the remainder of the season.

I should think that if team management had even slightest hopes to make a recovery it was forgotten by now
Definitely best wishes to a speedy recovery.

Watch, we'll insert a couple young kids into the lineup in the near future and we'll see better hockey than we've seen all season and rise up the standings just enough to spoil a good 1st round pick. It'll be our luck.

You'd definitley have to think this forces JR into thinking, 'this season is what it is'. We'll see which route we go now.

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Rodney will likely be here since he seems to be their call up guy, but not sure he's ready for Top 4 work yet.
What?!!! Rodney is never going to be ready for Top 4. He is #6/7 defenseman at best and will never be better than that.

Certainly, we can give him top 4 minutes to play, but that won't make me a top 4 defenseman, never ever.

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A nasty and untimely injury to be sure. But I'm not sure that kind of injury will bring down his value nearly as much as other kinds.

Also his -10, which no doubt would only get worse given the Canes overall play and his TTOI, won't look so bad around the trading deadline and many contenders will overpay for potential PP improvements heading into the playoffs.

Coming back in the short-term from a laceration doesn't have the question marks associated with more serious injuries such as torn MCL or ACL.

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It's pretty sad that the first thing I thought of when I saw this news was, "well there goes any trade value he had".

*shrug* I thought the same thing. Get well soon, Joe.

Also I must be living in bizarro world. Can somebody explain to me why on earth we would want to resign him in the offseason? I mean, unless you're talking cheap like <2M cheap. Then maybe I could understand it.

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Does anyone else think maybe we could end up re-signing Joe, especially after this? There's a big part of me that wants us to hang on to him this season and then try to get him signed to a new deal. This should theoretically bring down his asking price.
Why not?

My noob opinion... Corvo is one of this guy who becomes better and better with every year. Excellent skater, good PP QB, deadly shot, can play big minutes. In last few monts Joe Corvo becomes unbelievable underrated.

I think Joe loves to play in Raleigh, he's good friend with Staal, Whitney and Cole... can be some kind of mentor for McBain/ Carson... yeah, i prefer JR to sign Willie Mitchell but Joe Corvo is excellent option.

We have only Pitkanen and Gleason for top 4. Eventually McBain but this is only three guys. Rodney/ Carson/ Bellemore for #6 and Alberts for #5.

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Also I must be living in bizarro world. Can somebody explain to me why on earth we would want to resign him in the offseason? I mean, unless you're talking cheap like <2M cheap. Then maybe I could understand it.
Why do you think he is worth so little?

We are already down to only two guys, Pitkanen and Corvo, who can contribute significant offense from the back end and actually move the puck out of their own zone. I agree with dmonk that Rodney will never be more than a 6/7 guy and a powerplay specialist, and I don't think McBain is going to be quite ready yet for a top 4 role next season. So where does that leave us? If we lose Corvo, we are going to HAVE to bring in somebody else from outside, otherwise the mobility of our defense is going to be even more hilariously terrible next season. Corvo is the only guy we have with that big point shot, and he chips in offensively without being a total liability in his own end.

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Also I must be living in bizarro world. Can somebody explain to me why on earth we would want to resign him in the offseason? I mean, unless you're talking cheap like <2M cheap. Then maybe I could understand it.
Because we still need Top 4 defensemen--particularly ones who can move the puck and play on the PP. Right now we have a grand total of one defenseman who qualifies as such (Pitkanen) and even then I'd classify him as a second unit PP guy.

Not a good idea to lose Seidenberg, Babchuk, and Corvo over two offseasons unless there are real replacements...and I don't mean by talentless defensive defensemen like Alberts or marginal prospects like Rodney.

Put Corvo in a more appropriate second-pairing role where he isn't playing 26+ minutes a game against top lines every night and he doesn't look anywhere near as bad as he did at times this year.

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Why do you think he is worth so little?

We are already down to only two guys, Pitkanen and Corvo, who can contribute significant offense from the back end and actually move the puck out of their own zone. I agree with dmonk that Rodney will never be more than a 6/7 guy and a powerplay specialist, and I don't think McBain is going to be quite ready yet for a top 4 role next season. So where does that leave us? If we lose Corvo, we are going to HAVE to bring in somebody else from outside, otherwise the mobility of our defense is going to be even more hilariously terrible next season. Corvo is the only guy we have with that big point shot, and he chips in offensively without being a total liability in his own end.
Yep..I agree. It all depends on price and what other moves are made though. He should be available for a reasonable rate, but who knows for sure.

Given his track record of bringing back ex-Canes, my guess for next season is that rather than going for someone truely on the outside, JR will try to bring back Corvo and one of Seidenburg and/or Babchuk and augment the defense with one or two of the Albany guys. (Unless he picks someone up via trade this year).

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I agree, but I think Corvo makes bank this offseason when looking at what guys like Derek Morris pulled down. Love him or hate him, he's going to score about 10 goals and 35-40 points where he lands. Teams are willing to open up their pockets for guys like that. Look at JM Liles as a comparison tool as well. $4.2 million for him.

If we want Corvo back, he's probably asking $3.5 million on a 2 year deal or more. I would imagine his agent would be looking for 3 years.

Man would it ever be nice to be able to take Cam Fowler along with Taylor Hall or Seguin in the draft this year. Either that or trading for Cam Barker.

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A silver lining from this injury is that it bumps Cullen up to the top PP unit. Increased trade value!

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Our top trade bait goes down. What else can go wrong?

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Either that or trading for Cam Barker.
Roman Polak anyone?

There is rumours Carolina scouting Blues last week.

Similar to Gleason player, i'd love to get him here.

It's option. JR says today he search young player and prospects... 23 years old, can play 20-22 minutes on game.

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A silver lining from this injury is that it bumps Cullen up to the top PP unit. Increased trade value!
Well that depends on where JR's head is right now. If he's still in "we still have to win games", mode then Cullen moving up to the Top Unit makes him indispensable.

All in all, this was probably the worst guy on the team to get injured for long term right now. Wouldn't that just be poetic justice to see all our tradeable assets go down one by one as the deadline approaches?

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Wish the best for Corvo.

As for re-signing him, it's pretty much a must at the moment, unless we grab a replacement for him by trade/free agency.

I'm not a big fan of the guy (Getting a little tired of hearing "Corvo shoots wide/high), but he's the only thing remotely close we've got to a trigger defenseman at the moment.

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This team is just getting shredded up by skate blades. It's incredibly bizarre.

I hope all the best for Corvo. He definitely pissed us off with those "uh-oh" moments, but I don't think we've ever had a blueliner who could move with the puck the way he does.

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