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12-03-2009, 09:11 PM
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Martin in his Press conference saying they have to win the 1-1 battles and play with more determination and have to play more desperate.
brilliant stuff. i think he also said that if it doesn't rain tomorrow, there's a good chance it will be a sunny day

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12-03-2009, 09:13 PM
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Who can the Carbonneau bashers blame now?
Thats an easy one.



and the answer is.......J. Martin.


For tonights game:

Mara's fight

Sergei's assist

Gomez, A. Kosti, Lappy,

Georges goal

The Habs actually showing up in the 3rd period.

Pleks with a -3 and he got his two linemates put on another line....

I wish J. Martin would learn to inspire our players rather than punish them all one by one.

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well carbo prefered his dmen to throw up hail mary type passes..from our zone to the opposing teams blue line.

therrien is 110% right. we always have to dump the puck in and when we carry it in the offensive zone, the puck is knocked off our stick by their dmen. our players allow opposing forwards to enter the zone as if we were on the pk while 5 on 5. its way too easy.
Yeah .. I've found everything Therrien has said on RDS tonight 100% right. For example he said he doesn't believe in punitive practices, only 1-2 a year, because he says if you do too many, it stops having any effect, he mentioned JM has had already 4-5 of these. He said he prefers sitting 1-1 with his players when things are going bad, specially his leaders.

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12-03-2009, 09:16 PM
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Yes, Martin and Carbo have two very different philosophies. Martin hates the stretch pass because he believes that you get caught flat footed in the neutral zone with those kinds of passes. As we saw with Carbo, he was a big believer in it. Either way, the results are still sub par.
seems to me no one is affraid our D's are going to look for the long pass. The result is everybody cheating on our center and our winger (puck side)... in my very humble opinion.

look too much for the strech pass , you might get caught in a worst position than when you get caught playing JM's system... imo ... but not to even look for that pass every once in a while calls in for even more trouble imo.

we could have had 10 to 20 breakaways had dman and forwards decided to use their brains.

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12-03-2009, 09:17 PM
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Martin like to compensate hard work.
In that case how long till Pyatt, White and Metro are our first line PP forwards?

The object is to put our players in a position to win the games.

Metro on the PP

Gomez with White and Pyatt

Sergei with 11 mins of playing time

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12-03-2009, 09:17 PM
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After 28 games, the players should know what Martin's "System" is unless Martin has no "System" at all. Our biggest problem is that all 5 players watching the guy with the puck and forget to cover other players getting into position.

The only advice I have is to play a defensive "System" and neutral zone trap. Price definitely gives us a better chance to stay in the game. He pushes those rebounds to the corner instead of letting it drops in front of the net.

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12-03-2009, 09:18 PM
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The worst part is that a major chuck of salary is committed for the next five years, last summer was the big once in a lifetime chance at a true rebuild and it got completed wasted. Team too small? Go smaller... not enough top-line talent? sign more "role-players" its like none of the major issues were addressed. Look at what Gaborik is doing in NY, he's just what we could use on our top line. Granted Markov going down was an unforseeable blow but he's not the be-all for the team, others should have stepped up. Cammy has tried but has his limitations, and Price has done a desent job finding his game. But really this is a team of mildly talented coasters with no finish. The much herolded White and Pyatt may be putting in the effort but don't have a goal between them, which what this team needs most. The biggest question is who will score the goals?

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RIP 2009-2010 season

The 5 steps of grief

1- Denial (We're better than this!)
2- Anger (God we just ****ing suck)
3- Bargaining (but...but Markov will be back and Gionta and...)
4- Depression (why god, why us, why now?)
5- Acceptance (yes we are a bad team and I'm ok with that)

I think I'm at step #3, where are you?

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12-03-2009, 09:20 PM
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Murray Wilson said on CJAD radio tonight that he talked with Ron Wilson after the Leafs-Habs game a few days ago and Wilson said "The Habs are too easy to play against"

That about says it all.

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So at least we know it wasn't just Latendress and Chipchura who were the cause of all of our problems.

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Don't worry guys, we can conceivably lock up the 2nd overall pick.

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12-03-2009, 09:21 PM
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I simply don't get why sergei isn't getting more ice time.
Ditto... He's great offensively, give him ice time... Plus him and Gomez look like they have played together for years.

We need our role players to play with more authority and make our opponents think twice before going in the corners. Moen, Pacioretty, Lapierre are three guys who must hit more than they do right now. You've gotta put some pressure on the opponent's d-core, or else we're never going to benefit from their mistakes.

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RIP 2009-2010 season

The 5 steps of grief

1- Denial (We're better than this!)
2- Anger (God we just ****ing suck)
3- Bargaining (but...but Markov will be back and Gionta and...)
4- Depression (why god, why us, why now?)
5- Acceptance (yes we are a bad team and I'm ok with that)

I think I'm at step #3, where are you?
lol

i think ive went through all of those already this season, twice actually

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I know he shouldn't be labelled as a saviour, but I really hope that Pouliot could give some life to the offense.

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well carbo prefered his dmen to throw up hail mary type passes..from our zone to the opposing teams blue line.

therrien is 110% right. we always have to dump the puck in and when we carry it in the offensive zone, the puck is knocked off our stick by their dmen. our players allow opposing forwards to enter the zone as if we were on the pk while 5 on 5. its way too easy.
When we dump, 90% of the time, we can't even retrieve the puck back. We don't seem to have the player or simply the will to win those battles along the boards. And for the 10% where we do get the puck back, the guy with the puck always ends up passing to the D because the other two guys are always standing still and covered. It's soooo predictable. Then, the D shoots and it gets blocked or misses the net by a wide margin. The attack ends there.

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I miss bouillon ... and thats not a joke.

I miss him hitting someone in the face, from the side , the back , gloves in the opponents mouth ... the fights against someone 3 times his size ...

this team does NOT care about losing.

Of course , all teams care ... bla bla bla ... eklund this, dregger that ... but in the end, there are those who care and those who CARE... and there is a huge difference between the two.

in my book, for the same upside ... bouillon or gill ... you keep the guy that costs you less and ****ING CARES.
I will take Mara over Boullion anyday.....

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12-03-2009, 09:25 PM
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Yeah .. I've found everything Therrien has said on RDS tonight 100% right. For example he said he doesn't believe in punitive practices, only 1-2 a year, because he says if you do too many, it stops having any effect, he mentioned JM has had already 4-5 of these. He said he prefers sitting 1-1 with his players when things are going bad, specially his leaders.
What is the definition of punitive practice? 4-5 already? Seriously?

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12-03-2009, 09:25 PM
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Usually Im not a big MaxLap fan, but he played a good game tonight. 86% on FO, an assist and at a diffenrential of 0...

Like some of you guys, I still dont understand why SK was the least played tonight...Hes showing good signs since he was brought back

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12-03-2009, 09:26 PM
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it really is a great achievement by bob to get two 5 year plans and still have the same problems in the second that he did in the first. still lacking grit, a big center, a #1 center and size in our top 6.

if it wasnt for price this could be MUCH worse. or perhaps better since we would be closer to a top pick.

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Yeah .. I've found everything Therrien has said on RDS tonight 100% right. For example he said he doesn't believe in punitive practices, only 1-2 a year, because he says if you do too many, it stops having any effect, he mentioned JM has had already 4-5 of these. He said he prefers sitting 1-1 with his players when things are going bad, specially his leaders.
You punish a person all the time and they become afraid of making a mistake. They become tense and do not play with the full range of their talent. Our players need to play with confidence not fear of making mistakes.


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12-03-2009, 09:28 PM
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RIP 2009-2010 season

The 5 steps of grief

1- Denial (We're better than this!)
2- Anger (God we just ****ing suck)
3- Bargaining (but...but Markov will be back and Gionta and...)
4- Depression (why god, why us, why now?)
5- Acceptance (yes we are a bad team and I'm ok with that)

I think I'm at step #3, where are you?
I've been through all of these, now I'm at step two again.

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12-03-2009, 09:28 PM
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RIP 2009-2010 season

The 5 steps of grief

1- Denial (We're better than this!)
2- Anger (God we just ****ing suck)
3- Bargaining (but...but Markov will be back and Gionta and...)
4- Depression (why god, why us, why now?)
5- Acceptance (yes we are a bad team and I'm ok with that)

I think I'm at step #3, where are you?

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12-03-2009, 09:31 PM
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if we lose tomorrow, Gainey better give a press conference to explain WTF is going on and what he intends to do about it. I can understand a slump, but this, during a week when you should be playing like it's the playoffs (not just to honour the organization, but because tor, buff, bos are hugely important games), unacceptable. It's as if Buffalo worked as a single unit and we "worked" as completely different entities. It's not just about hard work and determination, it's also about having a game plan AND being able to execute a frigging shot on net at the NHL level.

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12-03-2009, 09:34 PM
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Oh man that was sweet!! lol

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