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12-04-2009, 09:04 AM
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Marinaro and McGuire are friends. Connect the dots.

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12-04-2009, 09:11 AM
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Marinaro and McGuire are friends. Connect the dots.
McGuire was also a candidate for the job in Minny,he didn't get the job but he is mentioned around the league.It may help he is buddies with the Molson's but if he gets the job it's cause they trust him and think he could get it done not because he is friends

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Have you guys all started watching hockey within the last 6 years? Because I'm pretty sure the team was in much worse dire straits in the Reggie Houle era than it is now with Mr Gainey. I'll take a smurf line of Gomez, Gionta and Cammalleri over the same smurf line of Petrov, Koivu and V. Bure. *shudders*

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So is it Pyatt, White or Desharnais that makes you feel all warm inside about the Habs and their future ?
Actually it's Price, Pacioretty, Subban and Weber.

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This coming from the guy who thinks a radio show host has pull in getting Mcguire a job...
What?

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12-04-2009, 09:22 AM
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Have you guys all started watching hockey within the last 6 years? Because I'm pretty sure the team was in much worse dire straits in the Reggie Houle era than it is now with Mr Gainey. I'll take a smurf line of Gomez, Gionta and Cammalleri over the same smurf line of Petrov, Koivu and V. Bure. *shudders*
The team should be better, but the results are basically the same.

Does it even really matter if this team makes the playoffs as an 8th seed? Do we want another 1st round sweep?

I absolutely hate that its come to this, but i'm almost at a point where i'm prepared to scrap this season if it means a top 3 pick and getting Gainey out of here.

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12-04-2009, 09:25 AM
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What?
"Marinaro is just trying to get his buddy a job, nothing more."

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12-04-2009, 09:28 AM
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I hope this guy is in the mix :


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12-04-2009, 09:33 AM
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As per Tony Marinaro last night on the Baton Rouge Habs post game show:

''Pierre McGuire will be in the mix if Bob Gainey is fired''

What do you guys think about this and would you be content with him as GM of our beloved Habs?

Positives:

- He knows talent, knows the game and the players around the league
- He is agressive in his approach and believes in building through the draft
- He understands the CBA and the business side of the game
- He learned from the one and only Scotty Bowman

Negatives:

- He is a closet Maple Leafs fan
- He has verbally ripped the Habs, Habs players, coaching and management for years
- He has no experience as the GM of an NHL team

I would compare McGuire to a superstar AHL player.
He is too good for the "rest of the media", yet, he is not good enough for the NHL.

He sucked everywhere he went to in NHL.

I would however gladly replace Benoit Brunet with him.

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12-04-2009, 09:38 AM
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I think a guy like Vincent Damphousse should receive more consideration than McGuire.

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12-04-2009, 09:43 AM
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Have you guys all started watching hockey within the last 6 years? Because I'm pretty sure the team was in much worse dire straits in the Reggie Houle era than it is now with Mr Gainey. I'll take a smurf line of Gomez, Gionta and Cammalleri over the same smurf line of Petrov, Koivu and V. Bure. *shudders*
you forgot a step between Gainey and Houle... Andre Savard...

Houle was terrible. no need to analyse him.

Andre Savard was good, but not good enough :
Brisebois signed to 4M deal.
Overdrafting european players who wouldn't come here (Perez et. al)
Signing Perrault, Juneau, etc as UFAs (it worked for one year though)

In comparison, Gainey did the following:
Markov signed to a 5.75M deal
'over'drafting American players..
Signing Cammaleri, Hamrlik, Moen, Spacek, etc. as UFAs

Gainey is CLEARLY the best GM we got since Serge Savard. Could we get a better GM?
yes, obviously, no one is perfect and there is always someone better than you hidden somewhere.
Who is that? At the moment, I don't know.

Brian Burke, labelled as the best GM in the league is not doing a lot in TO. Big contract to Komi, trading two potential top 5 picks for, yes, a very good sniper, but... TWO top 5 picks?! Trading Kubina for ... Exelby?! etc.

Name me a GM, I'll point you his flaws.

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12-04-2009, 09:51 AM
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But sometimes, no matter how you look at thing, it's the result tat matter the most.

The best thing to do right would be to tank and have a high draft pick.

Anyway the team is already loosing and mostly boring as hell to watch play.

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[QUOTE=alexstream;22465687]you forgot a step between Gainey and Houle... Andre Savard...

Houle was terrible. no need to analyse him.

Andre Savard was good, but not good enough :
Brisebois signed to 4M deal.
Overdrafting european players who wouldn't come here (Perez et. al)
Signing Perrault, Juneau, etc as UFAs (it worked for one year though)

In comparison, Gainey did the following:
Markov signed to a 5.75M deal
'over'drafting American players..
Signing Cammaleri, Hamrlik, Moen, Spacek, etc. as UFAs

Gainey is CLEARLY the best GM we got since Serge Savard. Could we get a better GM?
yes, obviously, no one is perfect and there is always someone better than you hidden somewhere.
Who is that? At the moment, I don't know.

Brian Burke, labelled as the best GM in the league is not doing a lot in TO. Big contract to Komi, trading two potential top 5 picks for, yes, a very good sniper, but... TWO top 5 picks?! Trading Kubina for ... Exelby?! etc.

Name me a GM, I'll point you his flaws.[/QUOTE]

Let's start with Ken Holland, Lou Lamorillo and Ray Shero, go!

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Pro: Won't have to listen to him during games any more
Who do you prefer? Benoit Brunet?

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Benoit Brunet.
He will trade Kost bros to Minny to get back his gros bonhomme Guillaume.

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As per Tony Marinaro last night on the Baton Rouge Habs post game show:

''Pierre McGuire will be in the mix if Bob Gainey is fired''

What do you guys think about this and would you be content with him as GM of our beloved Habs?

Positives:

- He knows talent, knows the game and the players around the league
- He is agressive in his approach and believes in building through the draft
- He understands the CBA and the business side of the game
- He learned from the one and only Scotty Bowman

Negatives:

- He is a closet Maple Leafs fan
- He has verbally ripped the Habs, Habs players, coaching and management for years
- He has no experience as the GM of an NHL team
He's the biggest Leaf hater on TV, never misses an opportunity to rip them. I find that when he does Habs games, he rips on the Habs the same way people on HFboards do, he's a frustrated Habs fan no matter how much he tries to hide it.

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12-04-2009, 10:16 AM
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Well, IF Gainey were to be fired..I'd much rather McGuire then Serge Savard.

He's annoying, but there's no denying he has a great mind for hockey.

Has Boivin come out and say the Habs GM HAS to be bilingual?

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I would take McGuire in a SECOND.

He knows the game inside out. I would not hesitate for one moment.

He's not shy to make the moves that will benefit this team in the long run but cause backlash in the short term.

He plays a character on TV, but you're insane if you think this is how he'd behave as a GM as well. The guy is a professional through and through.

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I don't think so...

Bring on Brunet while you're at it...

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Well, IF Gainey were to be fired..I'd much rather McGuire then Serge Savard.

He's annoying, but there's no denying he has a great mind for hockey.

Has Boivin come out and say the Habs GM HAS to be bilingual?
If Mr. Gainey is fired, I'm betting the hole management floor will go including Mr. Boivin. It'll be a sweep.

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He wasn't always a broadcaster you know. He was a player and then a coach and if I am not mistaken he had some sort of managerial job at some point... or was it scouting? I forgot.
I'm aware of McGuire's resume but I still wouldn't want him. Replace the Millen reference with a Jimmy Johnson reference (although McGuire's success in hockey doesn't come close to Johnson's in football).
Both have been in the broadcast booth for too long.

Pass.

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He can't do any worse than Gainey.

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Well, IF Gainey were to be fired..I'd much rather McGuire then Serge Savard.

He's annoying, but there's no denying he has a great mind for hockey.

Has Boivin come out and say the Habs GM HAS to be bilingual?
I'm not sure if you are referring to McGuire but he does speak french,pretty well

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12-04-2009, 10:25 AM
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There's no way this happens. There is a reason some people work in hockey and others work in the media. Being a skilled journalist/media personnality has nothing to do with being a good GM. Obviously you have to know hockey very well to do both, but it's not the only skill you need to have. Asset management, negociations, dealing with employees, all that stuff is really important to be a GM. It's short-sighted to just listen to someone on TV and say "hey this guys knows hockey and I like what he thinks I think he would make a good GM".

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Well, IF Gainey were to be fired..I'd much rather McGuire then Serge Savard.

He's annoying, but there's no denying he has a great mind for hockey.

Has Boivin come out and say the Habs GM HAS to be bilingual?
Well McGuire is bilingual, french canadian wife and his kids goes to french school


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I would take McGuire in a SECOND.

He knows the game inside out. I would not hesitate for one moment.

He's not shy to make the moves that will benefit this team in the long run but cause backlash in the short term.

He plays a character on TV, but you're insane if you think this is how he'd behave as a GM as well. The guy is a professional through and through.

this. perfect post . i would not hesitated one moment to have has a GM in montreal. WOuld be a big loss to Tsn actually he make their game a lot more exciting, a world junior championship will not be the same without McGuire going nuts over a prospects.

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I'm not sure if you are referring to McGuire but he does speak french,pretty well
I know, he can. But I'm just curious if the next GM after Gainey HAS to know french.

If so, we're in serious trouble.

I'd like to know if someone can give a list of maybe 5 good candidates who can speak french. And please no stupid **** like Serge Savard or Patrick Roy. I'm serious..I can't really think of any candidates other than McGuire I guess..

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