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12-05-2009, 01:23 PM
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Yeah that's a solid point, my counter would be I don't think that problem disappears when he becomes a winger.
Carter as a winger, outside of certain situations, is not a good idea. Physically, he is built to be a center. We've all seen him dominate games as a center.

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12-05-2009, 01:23 PM
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I say (If the current top 6 currently works out)

JVR-Giroux-Carter
Hartnell-Richards-Briere
Gagne-Pyorala-Powe
Carcillo-Betts-Lappy
I can't see Gagne playing with guys like that. Maybe for a little bit to get him back up to speed, but no more than 3-4 games.

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12-05-2009, 01:24 PM
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I can't see Gagne playing with guys like that. Maybe for a little bit to get him back up to speed, but no more than 3-4 games.
Then who do you throw down there? Giroux? JVR? Briere? We have 7 top 6 players. That means one of them HAS to play on the 3rd line

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12-05-2009, 01:26 PM
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Then who do you throw down there? Giroux? JVR? Briere?
I guess I'm just used to seeing Giroux get screwed over in this lineup. Honestly I don't know who would be put on the 3rd line. My assumption (maybe because Stevens has ruined my mind) would be Giroux.

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12-05-2009, 01:27 PM
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I can't see Gagne playing with guys like that. Maybe for a little bit to get him back up to speed, but no more than 3-4 games.
Yeah well at first he will probably play the third line with Pyorala and Powe/Asham but eventually maybe they will slot one more guy down with him, or acquire a decent offensive third liner at the deadline.

Any word on if the D pairings are going to change?

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12-05-2009, 01:41 PM
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Nope, they are staying the same. Hoping for a win tonight. The last time we changed coaches we won.

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I want to win so bad.

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12-05-2009, 01:49 PM
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Timonen is playing injured again?

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caps are 5-2 without ov so it might be more of a challenge than one assumes.

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12-05-2009, 02:08 PM
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Semin already has like 4 goals in 2 games against the Flyers this year.

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12-05-2009, 02:11 PM
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As was mentioned, my only concern with G as a top line center is winning faceoffs. Once they have possession I think that will be a great looking line.

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Timonen is playing injured again?
Yup.

I really liked the lines. I was at the Canucks game and could not figure out why it took so long to stack your best players up instead of sreading them out when youre down?

id say once Gags gets back we can put JVR/whoever is in the dog house on the third line. But lets be honest we will have at least one more injury by then to our top 7.

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12-05-2009, 02:41 PM
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Whether it's intentional by Laviolette or not, Carter deserves to be on the wing. He might be leading the team in points but this whole recent tailspin was a result of lack of team motivation, and Carter's the biggest culprit after Stevens. Richards with the C, Pronger blah blah blah. No player has looked like they don't give a **** more often than Carter.

I could care less what "works" and what doesn't. It should be about changing attitudes and nothing else right now.

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12-05-2009, 02:45 PM
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I'm so excited for the new era!! Lets hope Laviolette doesn't hope the team plays like a bunch of goody little two shoes.

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12-05-2009, 03:05 PM
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All the people commenting on missed shots being give-aways should keep a couple of things in mind:

A: You can't score if you don't shoot.
B: Missed shots (particularly from the slot) often create some chaos behind the goal line and it's a tough situation for the goalie if that happens when the other team is set up in your zone. A lot of times you commit to the post the shot went wide of, end up having to slide to the other post and it just compromises your ability to stay on your feet and ready. Also when you turn to look behind the goal line you lose sight of how the offensive players are moving in your zone, so your ability to anticipate really gets killed for that moment.
C: The likelihood that a missed shot is giveaway is largely a function of the angle from which the shot is released. The wider the angle, the greater the likelihood that it shoots up the boards. Being a winger will make this phenomenon waaaay more prevalent on the occasions Carter misses the net.

All that having been said, how many goals does Carter have this year off of just sniping a corner? Like one, right? He just isn't that accurate. His shot is hard as hell and his release is pretty slick too. That type of shooter needs to just blast the puck on net. With a shot like that you don't have to go around a goalie to score, just shoot till one goes through them. I wish someone would tell him to just time the shot well (Dman's skates screen the release, goalie is in the middle of shuffling etc.) and blast the hell out of it. When goalies have to fight tons of shots off, and can't get the puck clean, shots go in.

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12-05-2009, 03:07 PM
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Just watched Lavy's interview after practice and then watched Idiot's last post game conference, what a difference

And this quote from Asham made me smile

"He's going to come in here and ruffle some feathers," said Asham, who put up the best numbers of his career (15 goals and 19 assists for 34 points) under Laviolette. "He's going to demand a lot. I just think we need a kick in the butt."

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12-05-2009, 03:12 PM
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Carter as a winger, outside of certain situations, is not a good idea. Physically, he is built to be a center. We've all seen him dominate games as a center.
That's what I think as well, but other people disagree.

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12-05-2009, 03:21 PM
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That's what I think as well, but other people disagree.
Well, at this point the only way to know for sure is to test it out and see how he does. Might as well find out now whether he's suited to be a winger or not.

Also, Theodore is likely to get the start for the Caps. Alzner will probably play, Poti will play, and Pothier will be a healthy scratch for the Caps.

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12-05-2009, 03:24 PM
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That's what I think as well, but other people disagree.
So far this season he has not dominated at center. The games he played wing with Richie he had better games. We shouldnt focus on his past as a winger (2-3 years ago?), but maybe if now he can turn into one and player a more aggressive game there. I know the whole "but he is big" argument can be made, but at this current moment, even with his size, he has not looked good.

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12-05-2009, 03:25 PM
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Random curious question, do you think there will be replays of this game tonight on basic cable?

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Random curious question, do you think there will be replays of this game tonight on basic cable?
CSN will replay the game. I think at 1 AM, right?

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12-05-2009, 03:32 PM
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CSN will replay the game. I think at 1 AM, right?
I hope your right, that would be amazing.

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I hope your right, that would be amazing.
I feel like they usually do.

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I hope your right, that would be amazing.
Pretty sure he's right. They usually replay the games later on.

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I hope your right, that would be amazing.
Actually, not tonight for some reason. They often do...

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