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12-06-2009, 03:26 PM
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When Stevens left many asked who would be the next Scapegoat. Looks like most of you just found him.

Dan's a nut, no doubt. A chip on his shoulder a mile wide for sure. He's the guy you want at your back when you get in a fight. He's also not the one you want to go out with because you know there will be a fight every night!

IMO if Carcillo waits one second longer he gets tagged first. Is that what you guys want, another Punching Bag out there? I want a guy who knows how to fight. Dan clearly knows that, however what he did last night is no longer O.K. in the NHL. In the old building, fine, but not the new one.

4 games to me is absurd. Then again I liked the team, and game they played across the street much better then today's game.

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Id love to see Carcillo do what he did to Bradley to Jeff Carter in practice.
This we might all agree on.

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12-06-2009, 03:33 PM
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When Stevens left many asked who would be the next Scapegoat. Looks like most of you just found him.

Dan's a nut, no doubt. A chip on his shoulder a mile wide for sure. He's the guy you want at your back when you get in a fight. He's also not the one you want to go out with because you know there will be a fight every night!

IMO if Carcillo waits one second longer he gets tagged first. Is that what you guys want, another Punching Bag out there? I want a guy who knows how to fight. Dan clearly knows that, however what he did last night is no longer O.K. in the NHL. In the old building, fine, but not the new one.

4 games to me is absurd. Then again I liked the team, and game they played across the street much better then today's game.

Flame suit on.
Half of these people arent happy unless they're *****ing about SOMETHING. I agree the situation WAS his fault, but the penalty was absurd and NOT his fault. I wasnt aware you were supposed to let people fight back in a fight....

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This we might all agree on.
Im talkin ala keith primeau v. chris mcallister

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Also, only one of Carcilo's gloves was off . . . the one grabbing the jersey. He had yet to toss the glove on his punching hand.

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Id love to see Carcillo do what he did to Bradley to Jeff Carter in practice.
I'd love to see OKT do more of this on him in the locker room, those nice jabs he keeps feeding Carcillo, who gets more and more frustrated because he can't reach him. Ouch! They hurt.

Great fight btw, I wish Carcillo could scrap the real way all the time.


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When Stevens left many asked who would be the next Scapegoat. Looks like most of you just found him.

Dan's a nut, no doubt. A chip on his shoulder a mile wide for sure. He's the guy you want at your back when you get in a fight. He's also not the one you want to go out with because you know there will be a fight every night!

IMO if Carcillo waits one second longer he gets tagged first. Is that what you guys want, another Punching Bag out there? I want a guy who knows how to fight. Dan clearly knows that, however what he did last night is no longer O.K. in the NHL. In the old building, fine, but not the new one.

4 games to me is absurd. Then again I liked the team, and game they played across the street much better then today's game.

Flame suit on.
That's all well and good. If that kind of play were still allowed (or encouraged) in the NHL I would love to have a couple more guys like Carcillo's.

Since that's not how you win in the NHL these days, though, I would rather he didn't do it. Carcillo single-handedly cost us the game. It was tied, things were going fine, and then you give a Caps team with that much skill A NINE MINUTE POWER PLAY. How the hell can you expect anyone to escape a power play of that length at the professional level?

Obviously, Carcillo did not know he would be given 8 days in penalty time for that play, but a little restraint would go a long way. What happened to the days where - if a guy throws a hit on you that you didn't like - you got his number and tagged him clean, twice as hard, later in the game? Carcillo is a nut, who always overreacts and never thinks about the repercussions of what he's doing out there. And yes, he forechecks hard. Occasionally he even scores a goal or nets an assist....but how many times does he need to do something like this that scuttles a game for us? Sure, this may have been his first huge mess-up this season, but there have been others in the past - notably, the Talbot fight.

He often hurts this team. Last night, he straight up lost us the game. It was selfish and it was stupid. It was not about sending a message, or shaking his team up and lighting a fire. It was all about getting vengeance on a guy who delivered a hit on him. He's just a dumb player.

EDIT: For the record, I do disagree with the 4 games. It's a big suspension, and 100% on reputation. I just still don't think we need Carcillo when we have a handful of guys on the team who can do his job AND put pucks in the net.


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This league is a ****ing joke. I can't ****ing believe it.

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I'd love to see OKT do more of this on him in the locker room, those nice jabs he keeps feeding Carcillo, who gets more and more frustrated because he can't reach him. Ouch! They hurt.

Great fight btw, I wish Carcillo could scrap the real way all the time.

Im not getting into a pissing match with OKT vs Carcillo. I like OKT.

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At least it looks like he has a pulse. I really, really miss the old days. Never have I seen so much crying over a punch to the face. He was a bit to eager yes. A PP and a misconduct is well justified. 9 minutes is too much. 4 games is ridiculous.. The league justified all the rule changes with making hockey more fun to watch. All it has done is making the games less exciting and players overreacting to standard body checks. This is the leagues fault.
I'm gonna go watch Flyers-Sabres from the 96-97 playoffs now..

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4 games is extremely excessive. 2 would be a little bad. I'd give him 1 if i were campbell.

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He often hurts this team.
Everyone says that. Often, make it sound like every game. This game, and maybe the Buffalo one. And if any says game 6 i swear to god im going to lose it.

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Well, that seems a bit much.

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Im talkin ala keith primeau v. chris mcallister
Pitkanen v. Fedoruk?

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At least it looks like he has a pulse. I really, really miss the old days. Never have I seen so much crying over a punch to the face. He was a bit to eager yes. A PP and a misconduct is well justified. 9 minutes is too much. 4 games is ridiculous.. The league justified all the rule changes with making hockey more fun to watch. All it has done is making the games less exciting and players overreacting to standard body checks. This is the leagues fault.
I'm gonna go watch Flyers-Sabres from the 96-97 playoffs now..
I want to shake your hand sir.

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At least it looks like he has a pulse. I really, really miss the old days. Never have I seen so much crying over a punch to the face. He was a bit to eager yes. A PP and a misconduct is well justified. 9 minutes is too much. 4 games is ridiculous.. The league justified all the rule changes with making hockey more fun to watch. All it has done is making the games less exciting and players overreacting to standard body checks. This is the leagues fault.
I'm gonna go watch Flyers-Sabres from the 96-97 playoffs now..
This.

But. apparently on these boards. anyone with this opinion is a "low life"

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This.

But. apparently on these boards. anyone with this opinion is a "low life"
Then Im happily a low life.

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I'd love to see OKT do more of this on him in the locker room, those nice jabs he keeps feeding Carcillo, who gets more and more frustrated because he can't reach him. Ouch! They hurt.

Great fight btw, I wish Carcillo could scrap the real way all the time.

Dude he "reached" him good a couple of times.
OKT is decent I guess, not good enough to take a regular spot as a defensive defenseman or tough enough to be an enforcer tho.

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This.

But. apparently on these boards. anyone with this opinion is a "low life"
True. I sometimes think that a lot of people on this board would enjoy women's ice hockey better. Or gay porn. Or perhaps a combination of the two.

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im ordering my carcillo jersey right now....

hello operator, which jersey do i want? its the one that says badmfkker

his fights are good.. just sometimes bad timing.. and sometimes terrible outcomes.. aka Talbot

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True. I sometimes think that a lot of people on this board would enjoy women's ice hockey better. Or gay porn. Or perhaps a combination of the two.
LMFAO thats great!

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Pitkanen v. Fedoruk?
That'll work. I just want Carter to bleed and then get fired up and score some goals. Or continue to be a puss and get traded for someone who wants to play

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Now look at this. The losers are licking their d...eh, their wounds

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Everyone says that. Often, make it sound like every game. This game, and maybe the Buffalo one. And if any says game 6 i swear to god im going to lose it.
This game and maybe the buffalo one are the obvious ones. And, yes, game 6 was totally questionable. I'm not gonna say he cost us that game, but the question of whether or not he should have agreed to a fight that could [and did] spark the Pens' bench is always going to be asked, and rightly so.

He has been a lot better this year, but in general it's all the little penalties he takes and stupid plays that he commits in the name of being an aggressive, in-your-face player. I love that he's a tough hockey player, but in my opinion, he is a liability out there not just for these big things, but for every dumb penalty he takes. I just don't think he brings the offensive upside that everyone talked about when he came over here that would balance the risk-reward. I think he's replaceable, with someone - anyone - that can bang bodies as well, drop the gloves now and again and avoid taking so many penalties and getting suspended like he does.

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