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12-16-2004, 07:17 PM
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Difference between Sergei and Fedor

I had never seen Fedor Fedorov play until late last month, and I was extremely shocked by the fact he skated, handled and passed the puck exactly like Sergei. But every time he was trying to make something happen, the play didn't go far enough to create a scoring chance or a goal. So I tought : "if the Fedorov brothers obviously have the same set of skills, what makes Sergei so much better?" I came to this conclusion :

VIKTOR TIKHONOV

What do you think?

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I have another possibility: the matter inside his skull and that which it contains.

Both could be primary reasons.

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Sergei is good, Fedor is bad

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There's no cure for what Fedor's got: No heart.

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There's no cure for what Fedor's got: No heart.
He's missing the brain too.

I'm a Canucks fan, and know very well of Fedor's skill. Even former GM Brian Burke stated he was one of the top players in terms of skill (Behind Naslund, Bertuzzi, Jovo, etc.) in the entire organization. Fedfed has the size and toolset to be a great player in the league, but he has no heart nor brain.

If he played to potential, I wouldn't be surprised to see him pop 60-70 point totals every season.

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One could argue that without brains/hockey sense a player is useless, and therefore a player with technical ability really doesn't have much of an upside without a brain. I mean, if you look at the skill set of a guy like Wayne Gretzky, I'm sure you could find a lot of players who are better skaters and puck handlers. But without 99's hockey sense, they don't come close to his kind of performance.

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I just saw Fedor play for the first time a couple of days ago and I can't but agree. Amazingly identical to Sergei, and yet so different.

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It's beyond me how somebody with that much talent and size cant become a regular NHL foward, there are a ton of guys who've accomplished it with a lot less....but there were always be people like him who have all the tools and make nothing of themselves in hockey and/or life

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I'd be interested in giving Fedor a shot on the Penguins. Someone who brings as much as he does in terms of talent who could be brought over without giving away a great deal seems like a worthy risk. Maybe he wont be a complete soft serve his entire life.

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12-18-2004, 04:42 PM
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One thing is for sure : Fedor Fedorov, even now, is better than Konstantin Koltsov.

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Fedor could be better than sergei if he wanted to


how can a guy that big skate so strong? He's got a great shot.... he's go it all.... what a waste of talent

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One thing is for sure : Fedor Fedorov, even now, is better than Konstantin Koltsov.


I'll take Koltsov's speed over whatever Fedor has (which is nothing).

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I don't know, I think Konstantin Koltsov will be a decent 3rd liner. The few times I bothered to watch the Penguins last season, I noticed a hustle and defensive conscience that, together with his speed, will make him usable in the future.

Fedor is a nothing.

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I don't know, I think Konstantin Koltsov will be a decent 3rd liner. The few times I bothered to watch the Penguins last season, I noticed a hustle and defensive conscience that, together with his speed, will make him usable in the future.

Fedor is a nothing.
That's funny, the few times I saw Fedor for Vancouver, he was all over the ice, making things happen, despite having fireplugs for linemates.
Trade him to Detroit for a 5th rounder.

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One thing is for sure : Fedor Fedorov, even now, is better than Konstantin Koltsov.
Now I'd take Koltsov any time, every time.

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I don't know, I think Konstantin Koltsov will be a decent 3rd liner. The few times I bothered to watch the Penguins last season, I noticed a hustle and defensive conscience that, together with his speed, will make him usable in the future.
He has 2nd line potential, IMO. He doesn't necessarily have a goalscorers touch (though his first NHL goal was damn sweet), but he has an underrated wrist shot which he surprised a few goalies with coming down the left side. He still needs to work on it, though.

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Not much in terms of hockey sense and he doesn't pass the puck too much (from what I have seen).

Still, he's still very young and has quite the combination of skill, size and skating ability. I don't think he'll ever put it together but I could see another team taking a chance on him if Vancouver decides to let him go.

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I was so impressed with him in last week's Rosno Cup in Moscow, and I think that he's the typical wake up late player ... he'll get good at 27-28.

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I'd be interested to see how he would play on his brother's team. They seem to be rather close...

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Fedor has potential to be the best, but what keeps him from preventing that is heart, desire, and a brain.

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Can someone give me a run-down of the Koltsovs: What team they're drafted by, their NHL performance so far, and their expected NHL performance?

I get them confused.

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Can someone give me a run-down of the Koltsovs: What team they're drafted by, their NHL performance so far, and their expected NHL performance?

I get them confused.
Two "legit" Koltsov's in the AHL/NHL. One is Konstantin Koltsov, who was drafted by the Pittsburgh Penguins. Speedy leftwinger, who has a decent scoring touch. The other is Kirill Koltsov, drafted by the Vancouver Canucks. Small defenceman, but with oozes with offensive talent. Defensive play requires more work though.

Konstantin played in the NHL last year, getting around 30 pts. Kirill has yet to play a regular season NHL game, but should *be there* in a year or two. Probably gets a chance to crack the lineup once the lockout is over.

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