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12-11-2009, 06:03 AM
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PHX rejected Sanguinetti for Mueller

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The Blueshirts can't make a meaningful trade because they can't afford to move the few assets other teams actually want. To wit: The Post has learned Sather recently offered young Hartford defenseman Bobby Sanguinetti to the Coyotes in exchange for young, talented and underachieving center Peter Mueller.

But Phoenix general manager Don Maloney, who had a hand in drafting Sanguinetti 21st overall in 2006 when serving as Sather's assistant, didn't bite. Maloney, we're told, instead countered with a request for either Brandon Dubinsky or Ryan Callahan.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/range...#ixzz0ZNf3HOQp

The rest of the column focuses on the three big contracts. Big rip job on Michal Rozsival. Touches on the rapid decline of Chris Drury and the Wade Redden saga.

PHX isn't moving Mueller straight up for Sanguinetti. Just on where they were selected,PHX isn't making that move. If Sanguinetti was playing in the NHL instead of the AHL and with Mueller struggling,it would be more feasible.

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How's Mueller doing this season? I'd like that deal for us, not surprised PHX didn't take it.

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How's Mueller doing this season? I'd like that deal for us, not surprised PHX didn't take it.
Not good. He has struggled big time.

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Muellers cap hit?

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Not good. He has struggled big time.
Happy this didn't go through, I'm a huge Sangs supporter. If Mueller has struggled big time, he'd fit in perfect here

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I don't like this at all, big surprise huh. Moving our youth for an underachiever just hoping that he'll find his stride in NY. Our team needs to be built from Hartford, that is where the chemistry and "system" is developed. Why make all this investment in "our" guy only to trade him away for another "project" Typical delusional thinking by the genius.

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Muellers cap hit?
$1.7 million. $850,000 in salary and the same amount in performance bonuses. Group II this summer.

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I don't like this at all, big surprise huh. Moving our youth for an underachiever just hoping that he'll find his stride in NY. Our team need to be built from Hartford, that is where the chemistry and "system" is developed. Why make all this investment in "our" guy only to trade him away for another "project" Typical delusional thinking by the genius.
Both players are the same age. Mueller is 21 year old. He is not a 31 year old.

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I don't like this at all, big surprise huh. Moving our youth for an underachiever just hoping that he'll find his stride in NY. Our team needs to be built from Hartford, that is where the chemistry and "system" is developed. Why make all this investment in "our" guy only to trade him away for another "project" Typical delusional thinking by the genius.
I'm one of the last people to defend Sather, but in his defense Mueller is pretty damn talented, and really young. Also, we have an over-abundance of young puck moving d-man, so moving Sangs and giving him a chance on an NHL team would be the right thing to do.

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I totally agree with what he is saying about putting players in the minors. I understand maybe not right now but at the end of the season there is no reason whey we shouldnt just dump redden and rosy in the minors. But then again god knows how much money he will throw at someone else

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Wow, Brooks absolutely ripped apart Rosival in that article. I don't think Larry has written an article like that since pre-lockout.

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Wow, Brooks absolutely ripped apart Rosival in that article. I don't think Larry has written an article like that since pre-lockout.
He is totally right. The player that should have been sent down to the minors was rosy not gilroy. Even if Gilroy hasnt been playing that great, I would rather see him on the ice than rosy. Not to mention we would be getting rid of rosy's 5mill dollar cap hit

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If Sanguinetti was playing in the NHL instead of the AHL and with Mueller struggling,it would be more feasible.
When it comes to D's this make all the difference in the world.

A young D with just some intangibles quietly making his living in the NHL can have great value as a trade asset. But before he makes it to the NHL -- his value will be really low.

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Wow, Brooks absolutely ripped apart Rosival in that article. I don't think Larry has written an article like that since pre-lockout.
They can't preach accountability and their only move is to send Matt Gilroy to the minors. Their words ring hollow. It's like Obama preaching accountability and transparency but then his WH turns around and refuses to allow a social secretary to answer a few questions about why two wackos were allowed to enter a private function.

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I wish Maloney had been stupid enough to make the deal. The Rangers are in desperate need of a young forward with a high ceiling.

Who cares if Sanguinetti was coming from Hartford or not? Irrelevant. Would you be disappointed to get Ovechkin because he didn't come from Hartford?

F chemistry. Give me talent. Chemistry can grow.

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Mueller for Callahan?

Where do I sign up and let me get my car ready to drive Cally to the airport?

Only question I have is it going to be JFK, LaGuardia or Westchester airports?

One is a 3rd liner with MAYBE 2nd line potential (Callahan)

The other is a 2nd liner with 1st line potential and talent.

I would do that deal in a heartbeat

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Mueller for Callahan?

Where do I sign up and let me get my car ready to drive Cally to the airport?

Only question I have is it going to be JFK, LaGuardia or Westchester airports?

One is a 3rd liner with MAYBE 2nd line potential (Callahan)

The other is a 2nd liner with 1st line potential and talent.

I would do that deal in a heartbeat
Yeah I have to agree.

But I also have to go back to distrusting Brooks after he looks to have lied or be pretty mistaken about that article he wrote to bash Sather about not offering Orpik a contract 2 years ago.

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bash rozy. check.
bash drury. check.
bash redden. check.

beating up on rozy is well....... nothing new. some of us here have been saying hes flat out awful for quite a while, while the rozy apologists blathered on about his being a "solid 2nd pair guy" and a " smart veteran defender". he bloes horse. period.

i mean he plays every game. hes even back on the powerplay

when rozy doesnt have a complete meltdown on ice, hes said to have played "a pretty solid game". hes terrible but he plays and never sits. we get to see how bad rozy is every night. like clockwork. its nauseating.



and no thanks on meuller for cally. cally may not be as talented, but hes got 1000% more heart and hes our future capt.

meuller for sangs.... um yeah. in a heartbeat, but even donnies not that dumb.

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Gilroy & a draft pick for Mueller.

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and no thanks on meuller for cally. cally may not be as talented, but hes got 1000% more heart and hes our future capt.
Tell him to stop losing nearly every battle for the puck then

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The only reason Roszival is still with the Rangers is because sending him down isn't going to slove anything. We have no one to replace him with. There is no one out there that can slide into his spot & be better than what he is now.

We send him down now & that is the white flag, we will be going with 5 Defensemen under 25.

the scarier scenerio is if Rozie is out Wade Redden becomes the number 1 Veteran Defensemen by default.

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I think Redden already is the #1 veteran defenseman by default. At least, he's played much better than Rozsival this year and he seems to be more of a leader in the locker room

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Maloney wants Callahan?

Sell, sell now, while 'value' is high.

This kid has zero skill.

If you can get Meuller for Callahan, do it and run.

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Tell him to stop losing nearly every battle for the puck then
like meuller is gonna be an improvement over cally in that area ?

when you're 5'10 185 lbs, you shouldnt be expected to win every battle for the puck.

i mean this kid is a warrior but hes still smaller than most guys hes matched up against.

take him off the powerplay and give him solid 2nd line minutes. let him forecheck like crazy, take the body and create turnovers. thats his game.

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