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12-10-2009, 09:30 AM
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Its not how you start a season, it's how you finish it. And if the last 2 years are any indication, Giroux can really turn it on at the end of the season. He obliterated the Q in the playoffs and had a really nice series against the pens.

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12-11-2009, 11:19 AM
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Can I try to put things in perspective?

Despite their deficiencies, Lupul and Knuble did reliably score 20 plus goals every season and were bona fide Top 6 forwards (whether over[aid or not).

Both were let go, and now Philly has to use others .. who are not quite yet Top 6 calibre... to fill in.

Not surprising that some players are being asked to do more than they're quite ready or capable of. Giroux is young and probably falls in this category. Hence his struggles.

You simply cant take two top 6 forwards out in one shot, fail to acquire any top 6'ers to replace them.. and expect some forwards not to struggle.

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12-11-2009, 01:27 PM
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Despite their deficiencies, Lupul and Knuble did reliably score 20 plus goals every season and were bona fide Top 6 forwards (whether over[aid or not).

Both were let go, and now Philly has to use others .. who are not quite yet Top 6 calibre... to fill in.

Not surprising that some players are being asked to do more than they're quite ready or capable of. Giroux is young and probably falls in this category. Hence his struggles.

You simply cant take two top 6 forwards out in one shot, fail to acquire any top 6'ers to replace them.. and expect some forwards not to struggle.
Knuble has never been overpaid.

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12-11-2009, 02:03 PM
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Carter is turning into our version of Kovalev or Frolov.

lazy, gutless players who have so much talent yet they cant or wont use it.

The guy scored 46 goals last year and now he seems to think he can just replicate that by showing up and not working hard.

Yeah maybe I am critical of Carter, and I am over reacting but he needs to step up and prove people wrong, but I think its safe to say I am not the only one who feels this way.

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12-11-2009, 02:09 PM
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Carter is turning into our version of Kovalev or Frolov.

lazy, gutless players who have so much talent yet they cant or wont use it.

The guy scored 46 goals last year and now he seems to think he can just replicate that by showing up and not working hard.

Yeah maybe I am critical of Carter, and I am over reacting but he needs to step up and prove people wrong, but I think its safe to say I am not the only one who feels this way.
The thing is, its not like his goals have been these things of beauty. The majority of his goals this year have been Knuble goals. Withing 2 feet of the crease.

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12-11-2009, 02:22 PM
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Then put his skinny ass in front of the ****** net !

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12-12-2009, 09:22 AM
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I wish giroux and briere would be paired together again, atleast on the pp or something

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12-12-2009, 09:40 AM
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Despite their deficiencies, Lupul and Knuble did reliably score 20 plus goals every season and were bona fide Top 6 forwards (whether over[aid or not).

Both were let go, and now Philly has to use others .. who are not quite yet Top 6 calibre... to fill in.

Not surprising that some players are being asked to do more than they're quite ready or capable of. Giroux is young and probably falls in this category. Hence his struggles.

You simply cant take two top 6 forwards out in one shot, fail to acquire any top 6'ers to replace them.. and expect some forwards not to struggle.
You forget that we've got Giroux, JVR and Briere in to replace them, right?

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12-12-2009, 10:23 AM
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You forget that we've got Giroux, JVR and Briere in to replace them, right?
Couple things, though. Giroux and JVR, while projected to be good, have never been 20 goal NHL scorers. Knuble and Lupul were proven.

On top of that, Briere doesn't really "replace" Lupul and Knuble because Gagne's still a factor. Last year, Gagne came back and filled in for Briere (who supposedly made up for Gagne's absence the year before). Briere's pulling his weight and looks good, but we're essentially using Giroux, JVR, and Briere to make up for Knuble, Lupul, and Gagne. That's a lot to ask for right now.

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