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12-11-2009, 08:08 PM
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it helps us get our first back (and the way things look.. we need it)

and getting ryan cuts aprox. 2M of our cap next year (if ryan was resigned for the rumored 3M he is asking for.)

but hey.. i am high on ryan, low on carter. carter was never my favorite player and i think he is lazy and always will be lazy.


Where are those rumors coming from? I'm thinking quite a bit more.

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Atlanta is not trading Bogosian under any circumstances
And Peverley to a lesser degree.

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12-11-2009, 08:13 PM
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To Anaheim: Carter + Coburn

To Philadelphia: Ryan + Sbisa + 1st

Please thanks.
Well that better be the first overall.

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Well that better be the first overall.
Better make it our option to switch then.

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Something needs to be changed. Maybe JR is right about the team?

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12-11-2009, 08:24 PM
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Where are those rumors coming from? I'm thinking quite a bit more.

IIRC, a ducks blogger stating what his agent said.. where does ryan have the leverage to demand more either way?

there was talks about negotiating falling through temporarily between the ducks and ryan.. haven't heard word since.

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[QUOTE=triqsix;22604202]IIRC, a ducks blogger stating what his agent said.. where does ryan have the leverage to demand more either way?

there was talks about negotiating falling through temporarily between the ducks and ryan.. haven't heard word since



Watch the circus if he ever sees RFA status. I'm thinking if 3 mill was his agents asking price, that there would be no breakdowns on the Ducks part. I'd bet a testicle(not mine though), that he signs for 3.8 +..probably upwards of 4.

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A lot of teams will be asking about Carter. They know his current troubles aren't indicative of his future play (how could they be? Such a small sample size) and it's not like Vanek was more proven than Carter when he sized his contract. There's blood in the water and a lot of teams are going to try and take advantage.

But, this is the NHL. We all have our favored players but the reality is that no one is truly untouchable. There are just players that you'll trade for fair value and players that you'd trade for overpayment.

I am a supporter of Emery but if this team could get Halak to sign an extension for cheap (he only makes 800k and will be RFA) and we end up solving our goalie problem for 3 or 4 years for a reasonable sum then I would do that any day of the week.

This team will not be able to afford a top flight goalie earning 5 million+ for years. If we could lock up a young guy with a bright future for a few million for a few years then it's a no brainer. If Emery takes us deep into the playoffs and comports himself well he is as good as gone unless he takes a discount... which despite what most of us believe virtually never happens.

That being said, I really hope that everyone waits until we once again have a great 3rd/4th line and Gagne is back. Wait until the pieces are in place again and Emery is 100 percent. Unless Boucher starts to **** the bed but, really, he hasn't shown any signs that he's anything but a competent veteran backup.

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A lot of teams will be asking about Carter. They know his current troubles aren't indicative of his future play (how could they be? Such a small sample size) and it's not like Vanek was more proven than Carter when he sized his contract. There's blood in the water and a lot of teams are going to try and take advantage.

But, this is the NHL. We all have our favored players but the reality is that no one is truly untouchable. There are just players that you'll trade for fair value and players that you'd trade for overpayment.

I am a supporter of Emery but if this team could get Halak to sign an extension for cheap (he only makes 800k and will be RFA) and we end up solving our goalie problem for 3 or 4 years for a reasonable sum then I would do that any day of the week.

This team will not be able to afford a top flight goalie earning 5 million+ for years. If we could lock up a young guy with a bright future for a few million for a few years then it's a no brainer. If Emery takes us deep into the playoffs and comports himself well he is as good as gone unless he takes a discount... which despite what most of us believe virtually never happens.

That being said, I really hope that everyone waits until we once again have a great 3rd/4th line and Gagne is back. Wait until the pieces are in place again and Emery is 100 percent. Unless Boucher starts to **** the bed but, really, he hasn't shown any signs that he's anything but a competent veteran backup.
Yea I mean we arent scoing goals. There is no reason to go after a goaltender. Boucher has played well recently here and played great for the sharks when nabby went down.

I personally feel like we are getting a lot of chances and just not getting a few bounces. One of the games that we got SO in we hit two posts in the first period. I really like Lavi's system I think we go with it for a little while longer before changing a big piece.

Either that or build a time machine and trade Carter last year to the west for bank.

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I would like Halak

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I personally want to give it another week and half or so before I make a trade. I think they will pull out of this shortly.

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Gagne back next week? I'll take it.

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I would like Halak
If Atlanta would be willing to get rid of Pavalec then I would go after him first.

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Gagne back next week? I'll take it.
The comment about the Canucks' staff is interesting.

http://www.csnphilly.com/pages/landi...277&feedID=695

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Simon Gagne is feeling pretty good, but again said he could not see himself in the lineup until next weekend. The Flyers have some very critical games coming up with the Devils, Bruins and Penguins in which Gagne’s absence is huge. Gagne, who will be at six weeks “rehab” for his abdominal surgery on Tuesday, said he won’t be seen by doctors until Wednesday to get clearance to play. His recovery is listed at six weeks minimum. … The Flyers’ training staff has incorporated some rehab techniques from the Vancouver Canucks’ staff to offer both Gagne and Ray Emery that is specific to their abdominal surgeries.

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If Atlanta would be willing to get rid of Pavalec
They're not.

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If Atlanta would be willing to get rid of Pavalec then I would go after him first.
I think they would get rid of Lehtonen at this point.

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The comment about the Canucks' staff is interesting.

http://www.csnphilly.com/pages/landi...277&feedID=695
Well that's nice of the Canucks' staff. Hope it's a great way to rehab them. Just hope it doesn't keep them out.

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Just curious here, Tim P. mentioned a trade freeze from the 19th to the 27th in his latest article about the Flyers and I was just curious if that was a rule in place or if it is just like a courtesy to the players not to trade them at Christmas. Anyone know if it is a written or unwritten rule? Thanks.

Also they won't (and shouldn't) trade Carter. Maybe Gagne, Briere, or Hartnell will be traded (hopefully not Hartnell), but I think trading Carter would be a terrible move, and don't see it happening unless something great is coming back our way. And Halak is not great.

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Just curious here, Tim P. mentioned a trade freeze from the 19th to the 27th in his latest article about the Flyers and I was just curious if that was a rule in place or if it is just like a courtesy to the players not to trade them at Christmas. Anyone know if it is a written or unwritten rule? Thanks.

Also they won't (and shouldn't) trade Carter. Maybe Gagne, Briere, or Hartnell will be traded (hopefully not Hartnell), but I think trading Carter would be a terrible move, and don't see it happening unless something great is coming back our way. And Halak is not great.
It is part of the CBA.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=398586

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What exactly is the Holiday Roster Freeze?

It is a proviso of the current Collective Bargaining Agreement that limits the movement of players around the Christmas holiday.

Simply stated, it prevents any players on NHL active rosters or injured reserve from being traded, waived or loaned from midnight (local time) Dec. 19 until midnight (local time) on Dec. 27.

There are a couple of exceptions to this rule. Teams may sign players during the roster freeze or call up players if roster space becomes available. Also, if a player is placed on waivers before Dec. 19, he must immediately report to any team that claims him during the Holiday Roster Freeze period.

NHL clubs also can make any roster moves necessary to come into salary-cap and roster limits when removing a player from the Bona Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness Exception.

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Just curious here, Tim P. mentioned a trade freeze from the 19th to the 27th in his latest article about the Flyers and I was just curious if that was a rule in place or if it is just like a courtesy to the players not to trade them at Christmas. Anyone know if it is a written or unwritten rule? Thanks.

Also they won't (and shouldn't) trade Carter. Maybe Gagne, Briere, or Hartnell will be traded (hopefully not Hartnell), but I think trading Carter would be a terrible move, and don't see it happening unless something great is coming back our way. And Halak is not great.
Carter is the only one without a NTC.

And, no, I don't think they should trade him.

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To Anaheim: Carter + Coburn

To Philadelphia: Ryan + Sbisa + 1st

Please thanks.
Id take Bobby Ryan for Jeff Carter any day of the week. Cheaper and is a hard worker, Bobby Ryan is also from the area and could sign "cheaper" for his hometown team.

Coburn for Sbisa at this point I could care less about, I never got all the hype about Sbisa (he was being made out to be the next Bobby Orr) but he is a promising young player, as is Coburn, but Im starting to lose more and more faith in Coburn so if that happens Im OK. The 1st would be a nice asset to add for Carter. Dont get me wrong Carter is going to be awesome, but Im starting to wonder if he and the team need a change of scenery. Hes inmproved since Lavvy jumped behind the bench, but overall I do not oppose this trade.

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Thanks. That's a good thing to have for the players. I guess no other sports really have to worry about that sort of thing because in the NFL trade deadline is before then and all other sports aren't operating. Does basketball have one too? No need to answer that, I don't really care.

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Thanks. That's a good thing to have for the players. I guess no other sports really have to worry about that sort of thing because in the NFL trade deadline is before then and all other sports aren't operating. Does basketball have one too? No need to answer that, I don't really care.

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This reads alot like fabricated ******** to get the players going to me. Usually when the media is trying to spread rumors, they at least have a name to build an arcticle on. This is just THEY SUCK, LETS TRADE!

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Uhhhhhhhhh Vinny???

To Philly:

Vinny Lecavalier
Mike Smith

To Tampa:

Jeff Carter
JVR
2010 1st or Claude Giroux

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