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09-20-2003, 07:36 PM
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Is Mike Dunham over rated?

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One (preseason) game a career doth not make.



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And how many of those goals were goals he had chances on? Maybe the Rangers were playing the kind of defence Tom Poti plays...

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And how many of those goals were goals he had chances on? Maybe the Rangers were playing the kind of defence Tom Poti plays...
That's a compliment, at least you didn't say Any Elmore :p

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poti looked great againts the wings tonight! i know its preseason but if thats how you are rating dunham poti should be looked at as underrated.

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No. Dunham is not overrated.

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Yes, Dunham is overrated, and so too is Dominick Hasek. Giving up five goals after sitting out the last 18 months. What a bum! :p

Hockey fans are starved for action. But it's worth remembering that the outcomes (scores) of pre-season games are meaningless. And, for veteran players, they mean nearly as little.

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09-21-2003, 08:02 PM
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Dunham was unfortunate to be thrown into the fire a bit too late. He was stuck behind Brodeur and then at age 26 (am I correct?) was put behind an expansion team. He was at some point ranked higher than Brodeur, who would break out earlier. I have had the feeling that Dunham should have been better off if he would have had the chance to be a starter earlier in his carrier. Only my opinion.

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Who is JOEL PERRAULT, and why does his name appear in every panalty detail in that game report?

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Who is JOEL PERRAULT, and why does his name appear in every panalty detail in that game report?
I don't know, but he had 3 assists as well!


As for Dunham, basing this discussion on a preseason game is ridiculous. We wouldn't be handing him the Vezina if he shut em out, so why are we talking about a bad preseason start (which I don't know cause I didn't see any of the game)

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oh my god

How is a player who's not even considered anything special overrated?

Rangers 19 wins 17 losses 5 shutouts 2.29 GAA on the worse PK and defense in the league

<b>tell me, is he overrated?</b>

how sad is it that someone has to use a preseason game for basis, not to mention a game where the Rangers played an AHL caliber defense, only one NHLer Boris Mironov, on their third game in three nights on the road

I shouldn't be surprised, you're a Predator fan. A bigger surprise is you're almost 26 and are this ignorant

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Going to the NY Rangers is a dicey situation for any goaltender. You're either going to have to be fantastic, or your career is pretty much kaputt.

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09-22-2003, 12:06 PM
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I don't think Dunham is overrated one bit.

He can carry a team when he wants to...my only gripe about him is his attitude. He does alot of that: "It's XXX's fault, not mine." Blaming everyone else, instead of taking some heat himself.

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Going to the NY Rangers is a dicey situation for any goaltender. You're either going to have to be fantastic, or your career is pretty much kaputt.
Any player going to the Rags, that is the last stop on your career...

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Any player going to the Rags, that is the last stop on your career...
yes just look at how those bums, Mike York and Radek Dvorak, have been playing on your scrubby Oilers

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Going to the NY Rangers is a dicey situation for any goaltender. You're either going to have to be fantastic, or your career is pretty much kaputt.
Up until last year though hadn't Richter been the main guy in NY for at least 10 years? All I can remember are the backups that had a tough time there.

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Up until last year though hadn't Richter been the main guy in NY for at least 10 years? All I can remember are the backups that had a tough time there.
you're right but I think his point is because the defense is so bad, the goaltenders need to up their game here to do well

Richter and Dunham have

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IMO he's underrated. He never gets fair credit for what he's done because he plays on week defensive teams. if he played the full year with the Rangers they would have made the playoffs. of all the big names Sather has brought in, he's the only player to truely effect whether they win or lose.

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Dunham is a top 5-10 goaltender when he's on top of his game. However, through his career with the Predators, he was only on top of his game about 70% of the time. I've only seen him a few times as Ranger, so I can't give an educated opinion there.

His glove hand is one of the best in the league. He can make the first save as good as anyone else in the league (when he's on top of his game). His main weakness is his rebounds. He gives up a TON of the them. However, he does have the ability to direct the rebounds where he wants them to go. But other times, his rebounds can result in mad scrammbles in front of the net, which depending on the quality of defensemen, will result in goals. And once he's down, he's not getting up.

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