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12-12-2009, 11:16 AM
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Well when he wont be back next year and they obvisouley wont be going far into the playoffs this year, im sure he will be dealt for the best offer. Those are two 1st round players and an overager who is almost guaranteed to be back next year.

Obvisouley being a Dogs fan im not going to offer the whole kings ransom

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Does the tigres have enough to land deschamps and lagace? What about the eagles they will definetly land somone
I'm not sure if Cape Breton is going to gear up for a long playoff run, it might not be their year. With the run Saint John is on and top teams like Victoriaville and Drummondville ahead of Cape Breton, they might not stock up for a championship.

Victoriaville looks to be the real deal and I could see them landing some good players. I know Deschamps has been talked about being traded, but not sure if the Tigres will be the team to get him. My prediction is you'll see Victoriaville solidify the second spot in the standings during the second half of the season and Drummondville will lose some traction.

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I am an eagles fan i agree but i think they will add a little just to make some $ for the team,Deschamp would look nice with adam

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I'm sure there is going to be some big deals when the 19th rolls around, I just hope that they don't move a bunch of youg talent. The Seadogs presently have seven 19 year olds on the roster and will have to move some of these guys for next year, so now is the time.


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The two biggest targets are Allen and Cormier. The problem is... they can't be traded until the end of the WJC! We'll have to wait until January to know where they're going!

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Heard on Quebec radio tonight... done deal


To Quebec:

D - Steven Delisle (19)

To Gatineau:

C - David Gilbert (18)
2nd pick

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12-15-2009, 08:04 AM
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Cormier is going to RN. Done deal.

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I believe Cormier and Caron are bound to Rouyn-Noranda since this summer.

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12-15-2009, 09:44 AM
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What is the deal? I really want him in Saint John.

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12-15-2009, 01:02 PM
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Major Rumour: Deschamps to Victo being as good as done.

Jalbert available.

Lagace would be too costly, we might end up keeping him.

Hlinka on the market (although nobody will want him)

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12-15-2009, 01:06 PM
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Even Pierre MaGuire and Bob MacKenzie confirmed that on thats hockey last night.

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Major Rumour: Deschamps to Victo being as good as done.

Jalbert available.

Lagace would be too costly, we might end up keeping him.

Hlinka on the market (although nobody will want him)
That is a huge pickup for Victoriaville. This team is going to be one of the most dangerous in the second half and give Saint John a run for their money. Like I said before, I expect Victoriaville to pull ahead from Drummondville and gain some ground on Saint John.

Looks like it is going to be a really exciting trading period this year. I'm sure on Saturday there are going to be quite a few confirmations on deals that have already been worked out prior to the official trading period.

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12-15-2009, 05:57 PM
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What is the deal? I really want him in Saint John.
Deal is done.

Cornet was a compensation for Bourdon last year. Everything Rouyn gave up at the draft wasn't for Cornet, but for Caron during the mideseason trade period.

To make it clear.

Cornet = Bourdon

Caron = Emond + Boutet

Cormier = According to Stephane Leroux from RDS, 2-3 youngsters + 2 first picks + maybe other picks

There were also other players/picks involved in all the trades, but those are the most important.

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I'm wondering if teams like PEI, CB, Val D'Or, etc... will just follow or will realize they won't be able to go face to face with Victo/Rouyn/Saint John...

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I'm wondering if teams like PEI, CB, Val D'Or, etc... will just follow or will realize they won't be able to go face to face with Victo/Rouyn/Saint John...
We were talking about this at the games over the weekend, specifically Cape Breton and Moncton.

Moncton is looking at next year not having Barberio and Savard, a significant blow to their defense for sure. Up front, they'll lose Cameron, Brannon, with an outside chance at losing Kabanov. Next year, Gormley (assumedly) and Domingue will still be there and hopefully Kabanov up front along with Hrivik and Bissonnette. Jodoin would be a good bet to be back as a 20-year-old. In my mind, it might be worth their while to wait til next year to go for it. But if they chose to sell, Savard and Barberio would be big targets to move.

Cape Breton will still have Roy back next season, as well as Ellis. But they're looking at losing Adam, Brodeur, Bernard, MacNeil, Ward and Piskacek. That's a healthy blow both to their forwards and their defense. It almost makes sense for Cape Breton to make a run this year. Right now, they're tied with PEI and Moncton in the division, but they've played the most games.

PEI always makes me scratch my head.

Val D'Or...you'd like to see them sell, they're well back in their division and guys like Scandella, D'Orso and Sauve (though Sauve is injured) would fetch big returns, but other years when Val D'Or did sell, they always had a high asking price for their players, so with the league suddenly becoming a buyers market (with more teams choosing to sell), will anyone want to pay the price?

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Last year was more clear. We knew who were the buyers and who were the sellers.

However, this year, the situation isn't as clear as it was. We know for sure that Rouyn, Victo and Saint John are buyers and I think we can add Quebec, they wouldn't get rid of Gilbert for a 19 yo defenseman if they weren't buyers.

Rouyn-Noranda: Adding Cormier and Caron is huge, but they need a goalie. Rumour has it... Champion is heading to Rouyn.

Victoriaville: I believe Nicolas Deschamps is already a Tigres, so what do they need now? Probably a good top 4 defenseman and a physical 3rd liner. Kubalik seem to disappear this year when games get physical, how is he going to respond during the playoffs?

Quebec: This team hasn't been playing well so far this year, but they're still 3rd in the standings, so I think there's hope. There's a clear need on defense and Steven Delisle is one addition that's going to make a big impact on that defense. Quebec's PP is #1, so adding a PP specialist isn't as important as adding a good shutdown defenseman like Delisle. Goaltending is still an issue. Delmas was improving a lot and had manage to make it to 3rd place in goaltenders statistics. However, he has a recuring hip injury, he chose to wait until the end of the season for the surgery, but will his pain come back? If they keep Delmas, they should try to go for Gabriel Bourque. If Moncton decides to wait until next year, could they be interested by a trade with Quebec for Barberio or Savard for Moncton native Kelsey Tessier next year (and more)?

Saint John: This team seems unbeatable, but like every other team, they must have some weaknesses. I belive the reports saying Allen is heading to Saint John. They'll have a spot for another 20 yo. They should go for a defenseman, Simon Lacroix from Val D'Or or Emmanuel Boudreau from Rimouski? Another 2nd or 3rd liner could help, like Macenauer did with Shawinigan last year.

Then, there is Val D'Or, Drummondville, Moncton, Cape Breton and PEI.

Val D'Or: I'm really torn when I'm thinking about the Foreurs. Could their fans accept another reconstruction? They've already lost many of them and I'm afraid that if they don't try this year, they won't survive. However, risking their future (Archambault, Leblanc) for a lost cause, is it worth it?

Drummondville: This team has hard workers and some talents as well. However, I'm not sold on them yet. I believe that if they're waiting for next year, they're gonna have a heck of a team with overagers Vachon and Dumont, as well as 18 yo Couturier as front runners. Trading some key pieces this year could help them acquire some depth for next year.

Moncton: I also think they should wait. If they move the right pieces, they could be like the Sea Dogs next year. If they want to wait, they need to trade Barberio and/or Savard for a good return. Kabanov is great, but I'm 100% sure he won't make the NHL next year. This kid could destroy the league next season like Radulov did for the Remparts.

Cape Breton: I don't think they can wait for next year. Their defense and offense is getting old and they'll lose a lot of their key pieces next year. They should try to make a run for this year. Jacob Lagacé should be one of their targets on offsense. Maybe another depth defenseman as well?

PEI: PEI is also a head scratcher for me. They're excellent on paper, but they haven't played to their full potential so far this year. I don't know what are their real needs, maybe defense? And does Cousineau makes that much difference vs Mosher? If not, they could go for a 20 yo defenseman, and another overager better than Guay.

Gatineau, Montreal, Shawinigan, Lewiston, Chicoutimi, Rimouski, Baie-Comeau, Bathurst and Halifax should be high to moderate sellers.

Gatineau: They have a good core for next year and Clermont is becoming the star he was supposed to be. He'll be at the top next year. Their key pieces are Delisle and Quesnel. Delisle is already gone, but Quesnel should be looked at by teams needing an overager forward.

Montreal: They also have a good core for next year and trading Allen should give them a great return. Huberdeau, Gauthier and Després (at the draft) are some of the returns Allen is rumoured to bring in Montreal, as well as picks.

Shawinigan: Shawi has had a up and down season so far. They should be moderate sellers. They want to go for the 2012 Mem Cup and they already have a good core, but if they want to be at the top in two years, they can't be buyers. Legault, Vandall and Leblanc-Bourque are key pieces.

Lewiston: Lewiston has a young team and not a lot to sell. Maybe Lemay?

Chicoutimi: Good young core on offense, but they need young defensemen. Lamarche from Victo is rumoured to be a return for Deschamps, it would be a huge acquisition for Martel. They should go for the 2011-12 season, so they need 16 yo and 17 yo players.

Rimouski: Their reconstruction is better than the previous years! Their two imports could be real impact players at 18 and 19. I think they'll be good as soon as next year, but their big year will be in 2011-12.

Baie-Comeau: Should they sell Bourque and Goulet? I think they'll definitely be back as overagers in the league, so B-C is gonna ask a lot for them.

Bathurst: They're not as bad as their standing, but they're stuck in a pretty good division. Champion is a key piece, who else?

Halifax: Will they ever get out of the bottom of the league?! They're the new Rimouski Oceanic. I guess Marchand did hurt a lot. However, there's hope, especially in front of the net.


That's it. It was my take on the coming trade period. Comments would be appreciated.

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12-15-2009, 08:58 PM
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Gatineau: They have a good core for next year and Clermont is becoming the star he was supposed to be. He'll be at the top next year. Their key pieces are Delisle and Quesnel. Delisle is already gone, but Quesnel should be looked at by teams needing an overager forward.
If you believe in Ray Cloutier rumor for Delisle, you can still dreaming of him! ^^ J-F Plante confirm that there is no negociations between Quebec and Gatineau for Delisle. He also said that Gilbert will be trade to an Atlantic team.

http://blogues.cyberpresse.ca/plante/?p=95

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Ray Cloutier won't say anything about what he knows from the Remparts organization now that they're his bosses. He wasn't the one who told the rumour about Delisle. In the past, he would give some rumours about the trades coming for Quebec but now he's as silent as the grave. True rumour or not, it doesn't change my analysis of the coming trade period.

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Ah OK... I was told that Cloutier was the one who started the rumor... My fault. Sorry Ray ^^

Anyway, got some infos from J-F Plante, some interesting things about a very big trade between Hull and PEI and Piques would have a 1st line foward next year. It's not Casavant, but he said that Piques' fans would be be happy next year if it's true. He will have names friday or saturday (before noon, of course), so we have to wait...

I really think Piques are going for a back-to-back again... Just imagine if they can get two young players for next season by trading Quesnel and Touch (plus draft picks), they'll be in buisness! And if we get a top foward too, wow!

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I agree with maybe adding a solid defensemen on the backend for Saint John. Their offense is top notch and goaltending will be the best in the league with Allen in net. They already have a couple of really talented defensemen, but a long playoff run will require a top notch defense. If you look back at last year's Memorial Cup, Drummondville had a tough time against Kelowna. Jamie Benn had a five point game (four goals) and Drummondville could have used a deeper defense. It really dropped off after Dmitry Kulikov.

On the topic of Drummondville, I think it makes sense to make a championship run next season. While they are a very competitive team this year, the competition is looking very tough down the stretch and the team may be better off waiting. Their top line next season with Dumont, Vachon and Couturier will be deadly.

Makes sense for Rimouski to send off their high end talent for a quick rebuild. Rouyn-Noranda is going to benefit with the addition of Cormier and Caron (obviously) and will be dangerous down the stretch.

It seemed like at the beginning of the season there was only going to be a few teams competing for a title. But as the season has moved along, more and more teams are looking to make a run for it.

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I really only see the Sea Dogs, Remparts, Tigers, Huskies and Wildcats (remember they dont have Kabanov still) making a realistic shot on winning it all

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Coach Flynn said Kabanov might not be ready for the playoffs. Probably the reason why they should think about next year.

2010-11 Wildcats

Kabanov
Hrivik
Stephens (overager)
Jodoin (overager)
Gormley
Bissonnette
Brown
MacAusland
Saulnier
Saulnier
Roski
Daoust
Fraser
Bussières ???
Donnelly
Downe
Domingue

They'll have a great team and they could add some impact players by trading Savard and/or Barberio. And maybe Bussières...


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PEI will be making a couple big moves this trade period. Adding a top 6 FW and a top D are on there "pieces to add" list.
Lot's of Atlantic Division rumors on the QMJHL Atlantic Division forum:
http://qmjhleast.proboards.com/index.cgi

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PEI will be making a couple big moves this trade period. Adding a top 6 FW and a top D are on there "pieces to add" list.
Lot's of Atlantic Division rumors on the QMJHL Atlantic Division forum:
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That makes sense 'cause at Gatineau, there's a rumor of a very big deal with PEI. We have a top 6 foward (well, we get 2, in fact : Quesnel and Touchette) and we have a top defenseman (Delisle).

It will maybe look somethings like that :
To PEI : Quesnel + Delisle (or maybe Labrie)
To Gatineau : Duffy + 1st pick (that we could exchange for i dunno, maybe Chris Doyle)

That sounds good for me... even if I want to see Delisle stay...

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To PEI : Quesnel + Delisle (or maybe Labrie)
To Gatineau : Duffy + 1st pick (that we could exchange for i dunno, maybe Chris Doyle)

That sounds good for me... even if I want to see Delisle stay...


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