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12-21-2009, 06:14 PM
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Mikko Pyorola and more team Disc.

once were healthy what happens to the lineup and what happens to Pyro?? i think hes been a solid 2way defensive player but the our bottom six is part of our offensive problem as well!! yes our top 6 has been struggling but when you look at the top teams like Pitts NJ their bottom six help out huge and what has our bottom six done?? i think the majority of the players that are bottom six for us have scored the goals when they were on the top lines or powerplay like Asham and Carcillo.


We need more from Betts,Lappy,Pyro,Carcillo,Giroux,JVR,Powe and so on with the Call ups.

i think these three have played very well Kalinski and Ross and Laliberte seems like a slower Upshall. Nodl i think should be added into a trade hes been given a chance off and on for 2 or 3 years and other teams find him appealing.

Our defense besides Coburn is very satisfying with how they SHOULD be playing or how they have. if Coburn could figure himself out our Defense should be great with the Corp we have in Pronger Carle Timmonen Coburn Parent Bartulis Seems like the only thing we should have to worry about is Goaltending and Emery has played well when healthy so we shouldnt be in this situation but it seems all aspects of our team our struggling.

whats everyone think??

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If we got points for missing open nets and hitting goaltenders in the logo, Pyorala would be a very welcomed addition to this team.

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If we got points for missing open nets and hitting goaltenders in the logo, Pyorala would be a very welcomed addition to this team.
Pyorala has had so many chances this season to pile up points,but he just can't do it. There's a reason he couldn't get an NHL contract until he was 28.

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I agree i feel Pyro is a solid defensive type player but sooner or later some offensive production must happen. i love everything Lappy brings but i was expecting a little more production along the lines to what Brunette brings but i must have been way off in my assumption.

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Maybe it's me, but it seems like we always have a guy who makes the team - sometimes seemingly out of nowhere - who's supposed to be a good 2-way guy, but ends up severely lacking in the offense, and being "pretty ok" on the back end.

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Mikka Pyorala
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12-21-2009, 08:50 PM
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Mikko Pyorola sounds like a phone. And I agree, this team definitely needs more discs. Memorex usually goes on sale around this time of year.

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Well at the moment we know Pyorala isn't the problem with the team.

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I agree i feel Pyro is a solid defensive type player but sooner or later some offensive production must happen. i love everything Lappy brings but i was expecting a little more production along the lines to what Brunette brings but i must have been way off in my assumption.
Laperriere stinks. And we're going to get to smell him for 2 more years at $1.3M....

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Laperriere stinks. And we're going to get to smell him for 2 more years at $1.3M....
Funny considering how high you hold Carcillo.

Pyorala, while versatile, you don't last long on versatility alone. He needs to provide more offense. Probably won't be here next year.

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12-21-2009, 11:07 PM
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Pyo needs to be put with betts and powe on the shut-down line.
no one gives betts **** for not scoring, why start on pyro now? He is not there to score, he is there to make sure our 3rd defensive pairing doesnt get scored on.

he isnt great offensively, but he is really good at defense and he NEVER turns the puck over, which is something he should teach hartnell how NOT to do.

i think we need to start rocking 2 scoring lines
gagne richards briere
JVR giroux XXXX
pyro betts carcillo
lappy cote asham

(assuming we trade carter +hartnell)

if we did something like this, you would REALLY appreciate pyor/betts and how they simply shut down everyone.

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Am I the only who thinks that it's about time Matsumoto gets a call up to see what he brings to the table? I'm sure he can fit into Pyorala's spot and maybe provide a little more offense.

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Our season is over. Trade Pronger back for the 1st and tank.

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Funny considering how high you hold Carcillo.

Pyorala, while versatile, you don't last long on versatility alone. He needs to provide more offense. Probably won't be here next year.
While I do agree, I'm slightly more concerned by the lack of scoring from Richards, Carter, Hartnell, Briere, et. al.

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I can't believe that not only do people think Pyorala doesn't deserve a spot, but that some actually think it's worth discussing him and his impact on the club more then our under-performing, ****** star forwards.

Pyorala is a bottom six player who can PK and play pretty well defensively (and thus not be a liability on the ice). Once Powe comes back Pyorala and Asham will likely challenge each other for a roster spot and sub in and out for each other. It's as simple as that. I don't know what else there is to discuss.

It is absolutely amazing that we're willing to play Riley Cote of all people for one minute instead of a full game from Pyorala. Just mind-boggling.

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I can't believe that not only do people think Pyorala doesn't deserve a spot, but that some actually think it's worth discussing him and his impact on the club more then our under-performing, ****** star forwards.

Pyorala is a bottom six player who can PK and play pretty well defensively (and thus not be a liability on the ice). Once Powe comes back Pyorala and Asham will likely challenge each other for a roster spot and sub in and out for each other. It's as simple as that. I don't know what else there is to discuss.

It is absolutely amazing that we're willing to play Riley Cote of all people for one minute instead of a full game from Pyorala. Just mind-boggling.
Yeah I can really see any senario where I would rather play Cote than Pyorala. IMO Cote is a waste of a roster spot, and there is always a better option.

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Yeah I can really see any senario where I would rather play Cote than Pyorala. IMO Cote is a waste of a roster spot, and there is always a better option.
Exactly. Calling up any one of the Phantoms would be an upgrade over Cote, let alone an actual NHL player.

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Exactly. Calling up any one of the Phantoms would be an upgrade over Cote, let alone an actual NHL player.
This already happened a few times this year. I got a good laugh out of the fact they call up guys like Kalinski and Nodl rather than play Cote. A decision I agree with by the way. I honestly don't know why he's even around still.

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Maybe it's me, but it seems like we always have a guy who makes the team - sometimes seemingly out of nowhere - who's supposed to be a good 2-way guy, but ends up severely lacking in the offense, and being "pretty ok" on the back end.

See:

Mikka Pyorala
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Radovan Somik
Jiri Dopita
I was so psyched when he made the team, then so disappointed when he sucked.

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Is this thread limited to Mikko talk or can we go further into more team disc.?

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Am I the only who thinks that it's about time Matsumoto gets a call up to see what he brings to the table? I'm sure he can fit into Pyorala's spot and maybe provide a little more offense.
Matsumoto is not a winger, he is a center. They already have a lot of guys who play center, and they're not going to bring him up to play 4th line.

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Am I the only who thinks that it's about time Matsumoto gets a call up to see what he brings to the table? I'm sure he can fit into Pyorala's spot and maybe provide a little more offense.
No, I want him up here.

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Matsumoto is not a winger, he is a center. They already have a lot of guys who play center, and they're not going to bring him up to play 4th line.
We might need a Center if Giroux and Carter get traded for Kovalchuk.

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We might need a Center if Giroux and Carter get traded for Kovalchuk.
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We might need a Center if Giroux and Carter get traded for Kovalchuk.
Throw in JVR and you might have a deal there. Not sure how two underperforming wingers get one of the most dynamic in the game.

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Throw in JVR and you might have a deal there. Not sure how two underperforming wingers get one of the most dynamic in the game.
Not a matter of underperforming as it is potential value. Last year showed they can be really well. If Carter/Giroux were to come out of this slump, I'd say in a Carter/Giroux for Kovalchuk, Atlanta would win. That's also just my opinion. Take it for what it's worth.

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