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12-20-2009, 12:08 AM
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Staios to the East

After those blocks in this game and even last years game you would think that somebody in the east and especially teams in the Southeast would love to put ol' Steady against Ovie just for the blocked shots. If i was Tampa I'm sure just by seeing that 5-3 they would forget about the Steve's cap hit for next year.

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The East? How about the East River?

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The East? How about the East River?
That was actually going to be my next proposal.

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Staios has been ok this season.

This team needs less gamblers on the back end. One of the the fancy dan foursome needs to get traded for someone solid defensively.

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12-20-2009, 12:57 AM
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Staios is what Staios is, and I believe he still has value. But at this stage for the Oilers he is a diminishing return.

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12-20-2009, 01:02 AM
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Forget about moving Staios move Visnovsky and do a damn rebuild.

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12-20-2009, 01:14 AM
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If we move Staios, the Oil better be looking for a stay-at-home d-man. Now, I'm no delusional fan here. I know Staios isn't what he once was. But this team has too many guys that only play good in the one end of the rink. We need the Staios-types. If they trade him, I'm just saying they need a replacement (in another deal, or whatever) or our goalies are going to get red-light burn on the backs of their necks far worse than they already have.

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keep him in the west - so when we play him, we can take advantage of his BRUTAL defensive play

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12-20-2009, 01:24 AM
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Like someone said above, Staios has been ok this season, so no worries.

Lets get one of Gilbert, Grebs or Souray out of here for someone who plays a Smid like game. Simply and solid defensively.

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12-20-2009, 01:32 AM
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Like someone said above, Staios has been ok this season, so no worries.

Lets get one of Gilbert, Grebs or Souray out of here for someone who plays a Smid like game. Simply and solid defensively.
I agree with this.

Either that, or someone that hits like a freight train and scares anyone carrying the puck over our blueline.

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12-20-2009, 02:43 AM
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I think we need to keep a guy like Staios around.. he's a decent third pairing guy.. he makes too much but we need more guys that will block shots like he does. I do believe that one of the wonder twins should go though.. preferably for a top 6 forward with size.

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12-20-2009, 04:21 AM
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Leafs would gladly give you Finger for Staios.

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Leafs would gladly give you Finger for Staios.
How about Staios for Ian White??

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Leafs would gladly give you Finger for Staios.

How about Staios and Gagner for Luke Schenn and Ian White.

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I think we need to keep a guy like Staios around.. he's a decent third pairing guy.. he makes too much but we need more guys that will block shots like he does.
This is the truth . Staios is one guy I wouldn't mind see retire an Oiler . Only one year left on his deal unless I'm mistaken . He gets beat more often than he used to , but you will never ever see Steve Staios bail out on a play to save himself like I see Gilbert and Grebs and Vish do virtually every game .

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12-20-2009, 09:07 AM
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His numbers in the past few games have a lot more to do with Grebeshkov. That guy has been brutal since his return.

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If we wan't cap relief, then moving Staios and his $2.7M cap hit next year is a smart place to start. Especially considering he's currently playing on the 3rd pairing and isn't an important part of this team's future.

Washington would actually be a good place for him. He could help them out this year, and replace Pothier who's a UFA after this year (so are Morrisonn, Jurinca, and Sloan)

Boston might be an ok fit as well. He'd be a good addition for their playoff push, and they only have 3 Dmen under contract next year.

Carolina has 6 defencemen reaching UFA status next year, and they've always leaned toward a vetran defense core. Of course, I don't see them being buyers at the deadline (or any other time throughout this season).

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12-21-2009, 10:25 AM
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I have no problem moving Staios, but there isn't anyone to replace him on this team. If he is moved they better be prepared to be missing what he brings.

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I have no problem moving Staios, but there isn't anyone to replace him on this team. If he is moved they better be prepared to be missing what he brings.
If they didn't believe it about Stoll and Reasoner (Horcoff and Brodziak's production practically vanished), then chances are, they aren't going to believe it about Staios either.

I'm actually in favour of moving Staios, but what I don't think people don't realise is how he's used in almost a primarily unfavorable position which results in him looking worse than he probably is. Once he's gone, someone else is going to be given the role of starting whenever the other team's top offensive players are on the ice with the puck in our end. And few players can play that role almost exclusively and still look good. I think they'll need to bring someone else in who can handle the minutes, but I'd like to think it can be done for less than $2.7M a year.

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If they didn't believe it about Stoll and Reasoner (Horcoff and Brodziak's production practically vanished), then chances are, they aren't going to believe it about Staios either.

I'm actually in favour of moving Staios, but what I don't think people don't realise is how he's used in almost a primarily unfavorable position which results in him looking worse than he probably is. Once he's gone, someone else is going to be given the role of starting whenever the other team's top offensive players are on the ice with the puck in our end. And few players can play that role almost exclusively and still look good. I think they'll need to bring someone else in who can handle the minutes, but I'd like to think it can be done for less than $2.7M a year.
Have to agree. I still say they need to go to the three defensive d-men and three offensive d-men system.

The problem with this team is they have too many offensive forwards, which isn't a problem if you have defensive forwards to back them up.

The other problem is we have too many offensive d-men, which isn't a problem if you have forwards that come back and help out.

It's not exactly rocket science to why this team is as good as they are. We need to to pick one style and go with it.

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If they didn't believe it about Stoll and Reasoner (Horcoff and Brodziak's production practically vanished), then chances are, they aren't going to believe it about Staios either.

I'm actually in favour of moving Staios, but what I don't think people don't realise is how he's used in almost a primarily unfavorable position which results in him looking worse than he probably is. Once he's gone, someone else is going to be given the role of starting whenever the other team's top offensive players are on the ice with the puck in our end. And few players can play that role almost exclusively and still look good. I think they'll need to bring someone else in who can handle the minutes, but I'd like to think it can be done for less than $2.7M a year.
Good points. I'll start it off by saying I'm a BIG fan of Staios. The work ethic is always there.. more so probably than anyone on the team. He does see the hard minutes too. I know he will have to be replaced, if he's traded. However, you're right.. he can be replaced at a cheaper price tag.

I just hope the guy upstairs doesn't do what was done with Stoll/Reasoner (as you pointed out). That would be pretty moronic.

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Good points. I'll start it off by saying I'm a BIG fan of Staios. The work ethic is always there.. more so probably than anyone on the team. He does see the hard minutes too. I know he will have to be replaced, if he's traded. However, you're right.. he can be replaced at a cheaper price tag.

I just hope the guy upstairs doesn't do what was done with Stoll/Reasoner (as you pointed out). That would be pretty moronic.
He already has. He's had all of last year, and entire offseason, and 31 games of this season, and he's shown no signs of attempting to fill the hole left by those two players. He hasn't even shown that he recognizes it as a problem.

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12-21-2009, 11:25 PM
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1. Staios can be moved.
2. Staios won't return much.
3. Whether Staios is moved or he remains an Oiler will not make any difference to this club's fortunes.

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I would not be shocked at all if Staios asked to be moved at the deadline. Buffalo would be a great spot for him.

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