Proposal: Hartnell Proposals

[King Canuck]

Originally Posted by EddieMFRoyal

Imagine the outrage in this city when he takes dumb minor penalty after dumb minor penalty and our PK blows up even worse than it already has. 25 minors taken in 35 games when you almost never draw them is beyond ridiculous. This city used to crucify Bertuzzi for his boneheaded penalties.....I don't see that it would be any different with Hartnell.

30 goals is great, unitl you factor in the dozen or so his undisciplined play will cost us over a season.

Well were trading away Bieksa in this deal so it evens out.

[RainingRats]

Hartnell will hurt more than he can help.

[JohnHodgson]

Originally Posted by SolidSnakeUS

If need be, throw in someone that is doing well in the AHL, like Matsumoto or maybe even add Asham.

Kovy-Richards-Afinogenov
Gagne-Powe/Kalinski/Some center-Briere
JVR-Giroux-Legein
Carcillo-Betts-Lappy

Scary top 3 lines.


I can say though, even though Bernier has less points, he has a **** load less penalties. Which to be honest, makes up for less amount of points.

Gagne-Richards-Bernier
Carcillo/Kalinski/Powe-Carter-Briere
JVR-Giroux-Asham
Kalinski/Powe/Carcillo-Betts-Lappy

Pronger-Carle
Timonen-Bieksa
Parent-Barts

I've always liked Bernier and I don't think he has been given a fair chance, but I think he would do well on the Flyer's top line.

[Bob Clarke Fan Club]

Originally Posted by RainingRats

Hartnell will hurt more than he can help.

I strongly disagree.

[King Canuck]

Originally Posted by RainingRats

Hartnell will hurt more than he can help.

30 goal scorer helps.

[RainingRats]

Originally Posted by King Canuck

30 goal scorer helps.

He has scored 30 goals ONCE! He is a 45 point player who takes a ton of bad penalties. I would never want him on my team.

[King Canuck]

Originally Posted by RainingRats

He has scored 30 goals ONCE! He is a 45 point player who takes a ton of bad penalties. I would never want him on my team.

So Jeff Carter scored 40 goals once and he is considered a 40 goal scorer

[kingpest19]

Originally Posted by King Canuck

Hartnell is twice the player Bernier is,Bernier is a 3 rd liner and Hartnell is a legit top 6 forward that can score 30 goals.

And yet they are both on track for the same amount of goals this year.

[Haute Couturier]

Originally Posted by RainingRats

He has scored 30 goals ONCE! He is a 45 point player who takes a ton of bad penalties. I would never want him on my team.

The whole entire team is slumping, he can hit 30 in the future.

Hartnell certainly is frustrating with his penalties at times, but hopefully Laviolette can instill discipline in him. Stevens failed to do so so I am not convinced Hartnell can't be coaxed to play a smarter game.