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12-23-2009, 12:42 PM
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I didn't find it all that funny.

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I think you are missing the point.
what point is that?
poking fun of the way he left the Sens?
it was still not funny.

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12-23-2009, 12:46 PM
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what point is that?
poking fun of the way he left the Sens?
it was still not funny.
It certainly does that but it just deconstructs the amazingly boring and obtuse way all those stupid specials are done. Any time a celeb talks about their house or car, it's recipe for boredom.

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12-23-2009, 12:48 PM
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It certainly does that but it just deconstructs the amazingly boring and obtuse way all those stupid specials are done. Any time a celeb talks about their house or car, it's recipe for boredom.
No doubt about that, to this day I will never under stand how Cribs lasted so long. Everytime I watched even briefly I felt alternating waves of nausea and boredom.

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12-23-2009, 12:52 PM
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No doubt about that, to this day I will never under stand how Cribs lasted so long. Everytime I watched even briefly I felt alternating waves of nausea and boredom.
somewhere a bunch of kids in the MTVgeneration are going to disagree with you.
I agree with you btw, that show ****ing sucked.

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12-23-2009, 01:09 PM
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what point is that?
poking fun of the way he left the Sens?
it was still not funny.
Well it takes the piss out of Heatley pretty good too (the overdub comes off as arrogant and self absorbed, money obsessed, and mentions his funky eye etc.).

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12-23-2009, 01:10 PM
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somewhere a bunch of kids in the MTVgeneration are going to disagree with you.
I agree with you btw, that show ****ing sucked.
That show made me feel like a piece of ****

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12-23-2009, 02:04 PM
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Cue the only man alive who can save this team:
Haha, random search, look at what I found:

http://www.networthcoffeebrokers.com...e39s-coff.html

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Q: Anything
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Kambo, that avatar RULES!!

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12-23-2009, 02:16 PM
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curt cobain was a good lyricist at best with a lot of passion for what he did, however he was a horrendous guitar player and couldn't construct songs with more than an overused melodic minor chord progression. Nirvana's collective musical talent was about equal to that of a 16 year old.
Drum beats and fills you learn in your first 2 weeks of drum lessons and horribly overused 'powerchord' construction that anyone with fingers can play. Nirvans might very well be THE MOST overrated band in the history of modern music. They're right up there with U2

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12-23-2009, 02:21 PM
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curt cobain was a good lyricist at best with a lot of passion for what he did, however he was a horrendous guitar player and couldn't construct songs with more than an overused melodic minor chord progression. Nirvana's collective musical talent was about equal to that of a 16 year old.
Drum beats and fills you learn in your first 2 weeks of drum lessons and horribly overused 'powerchord' construction that anyone with fingers can play. Nirvans might very well be THE MOST overrated band in the history of modern music. They're right up there with U2
Dave Grohl might be one of the most talented artists of this generation (meaning my generation 20-30yr olds), but he was in Nirvanna so he must suck.

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12-23-2009, 02:33 PM
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curt cobain was a good lyricist at best with a lot of passion for what he did, however he was a horrendous guitar player and couldn't construct songs with more than an overused melodic minor chord progression. Nirvana's collective musical talent was about equal to that of a 16 year old.
Drum beats and fills you learn in your first 2 weeks of drum lessons and horribly overused 'powerchord' construction that anyone with fingers can play. Nirvans might very well be THE MOST overrated band in the history of modern music. They're right up there with U2
The thing to remember, is that he (they) completely changed music at the time. It was all hair bands and power ballads that were "rock" in the late 80's early 90s...and while maybe they weren't technically superior, they broke a mold that so desperately needed to be broken.

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12-23-2009, 02:35 PM
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The thing to remember, is that he (they) completely changed music at the time. It was all hair bands and power ballads that were "rock" in the late 80's early 90s...and while maybe they weren't technically superior, they broke a mold that so desperately needed to be broken.
Them and Pearl Jam basically introduced the Alt-Rock/Grunge genre to the US. Even if people don't like their music, you can't deny the impact they had on music today.

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12-23-2009, 02:38 PM
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The thing to remember, is that he (they) completely changed music at the time. It was all hair bands and power ballads that were "rock" in the late 80's early 90s...and while maybe they weren't technically superior, they broke a mold that so desperately needed to be broken.
i can agree with that, however i dont know that they were completely responsible for that. there were plenty of bands in the early and mid 90's that were doing that such as the emergence of emo in the early 90's (real emo, not what people call emo today not having any idea what it actually is or where it came from) and the hardcore scenes. Nirvana just happened to gain a lot of fame, which pushed them into the spotlight. There are any number of bands that could be credited with that feat.

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12-23-2009, 02:40 PM
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Yea like them or not they changed music.

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Yea like them or not they changed music.
people like to think this, however if it werent for a couple little bands called the smiths and joy division, the late 80s indie, punk and emo scene would have never evolved into 90s grunge and nirvana and virtually the entire 90's scene would have never existed.

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people like to think this, however if it werent for a couple little bands called the smiths and joy division, the late 80s indie, punk and emo scene would have never evolved into 90s grunge and nirvana and virtually the entire 90's scene would have never existed.
booya Joy Division.

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The thing to remember, is that he (they) completely changed music at the time. It was all hair bands and power ballads that were "rock" in the late 80's early 90s...and while maybe they weren't technically superior, they broke a mold that so desperately needed to be broken.
They also stood on the shoulders of giants. Pavement and Soundgarden were better and, hell, it's arguable that one of the best grunge albums was Neil Young's Freedom. People forget that a lot of grunge finds its roots in Neil Young and Crazyhorse and bands like The Stooges. Mudhoney beat Nirvana to the punch as well.

The 10 second soundbite that you always hear states that Nirvana killed hair metal but that genre was dying no matter what.

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people like to think this, however if it werent for a couple little bands called the smiths and joy division, the late 80s indie, punk and emo scene would have never evolved into 90s grunge and nirvana and virtually the entire 90's scene would have never existed.
you can say that about almost every modern band or genre of music. Everyone has an influence on why and how they play music which in turn they take and form their own sound.

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12-23-2009, 02:50 PM
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you can say that about almost every modern band or genre of music. Everyone has an influence on why and how they play music which in turn they take and form their own sound.
Exactly. There are other bands that influenced The Smiths and Joy Division, bands that influenced those bands, etc etc to the beginning of time. But Nirvana was a more distinct, noticeable change in the sound at the time, which is why they're so well known about it.

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Exactly. There are other bands that influenced The Smiths and Joy Division, bands that influenced those bands, etc etc to the beginning of time. But Nirvana was a more distinct, noticeable change in the sound at the time, which is why they're so well known about it.
exactly, which is why it's absurd to say that Nirvana "changed" music. They did not, they might have opened up the majorities eyes to a then non-mainstream style and genre, but to change music is a feat that Nirvana was not responsible for.

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exactly, which is why it's absurd to say that Nirvana "changed" music. They did not, they might have opened up the majorities eyes to a then non-mainstream style and genre, but to change music is a feat that Nirvana was not responsible for.
That in itself changes music. Bringing the light to a genre, and having countless fans connecting in ways that you and i dont know of is "changing" music. Nirvanna is bleh to me, its no better than Alice or Pearl Jam or whatever. Just because your not one of the "many" who think they did, dosent mean they didnt have something to do with that movement.

EDIT: Elvis for example..

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Soundgarden was the best of those early 90s 'grunge' bands anyway. By far.

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Soundgarden was the best of those early 90s 'grunge' bands anyway. By far.
Agreed.

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