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12-24-2009, 06:07 AM
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Power and weakness of the Yotes?

Hi guys, i was talkin about the Yotes recently, it's amazing, this team is fourth in the Western Conference, and i wanted to know, what's the power of this team? What's his weakness ? i know guys like Doan, Jovo, Bryzgalov, Lang are playing great right now.

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12-24-2009, 06:45 AM
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The Power is simple. They are playing US hockey.. No one is out to be "THE STAR"... They just all want to win. They don;t care who scores as long as someone does. No feeding the "shooter". That and I think they as a group have made it a mission to prove to the rest of the Hockey world outside Phoenix that the BS over the summer had "No Effect" on the players...

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Power = excellent goaltending, stifling defense and team speed

Weakness = goal scoring

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Power = excellent goaltending, stifling defense and team speed

Weakness = goal scoring
I don' know... we have out scored the other teams 20-8 in the last 5-6 games

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Until they break the trend from last year of falling apart after the all-star break I think a weakness needs to be considered durability. I know this is a different team and coach -- but aren't we nearly where we were last year at this time with that same optimism? Difference is this year there are better signs of the team success like the stingy goaltending and defensive stats, plus the position goal difference ratio.

I think a strength has to be defensive depth. This team has survived quite a number of games lost by top 4 defense already and still has the best record I can remember them having. I also think that backup goaltending is a strength, because over the past couple of years we really haven't had a guy that can give the starter a rest. Labby's not the best backup in the league but he's capable.

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I think a strength has to be defensive depth. This team has survived quite a number of games lost by top 4 defense already and still has the best record I can remember them having. I also think that backup goaltending is a strength, because over the past couple of years we really haven't had a guy that can give the starter a rest. Labby's not the best backup in the league but he's capable.
I disagree, I think Babs has been one of the better backups that i can remember this team having

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12-24-2009, 11:57 AM
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I disagree, I think Babs has been one of the better backups that i can remember this team having
It'll take a lot more solid performances from LaBarbera for me to agree with this statement. Until then, I'll stick with Telqvist as our best backup.

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It'll take a lot more solid performances from LaBarbera for me to agree with this statement. Until then, I'll stick with Telqvist as our best backup.
Sean Burke was a pretty good back up.

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Power = excellent goaltending, stifling defense and team speed

Weakness = goal scoring
Agree with the Power.

Weakness is their Power Play.

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Sean Burke was a pretty good back up.
Holy cow! I completely forgot he was backinp up Boucher for a couple seasons. That's funny.

Still, I'll always consider Burkie a Coyote starter.

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Agree with the Power.

Weakness is their Power Play.
Yup. Sadly, that's it.

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The Coyotes currently have the 21st best powerplay percentage and the 23rd best goals per game. I'd say the powerplay woes are endemic of the overall offensive shortcomings.

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Holy cow! I completely forgot he was backinp up Boucher for a couple seasons. That's funny.

Still, I'll always consider Burkie a Coyote starter.
Yeah, I do too, hence the emoticon. Just a fun bit of trivia really.

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The Power is simple. They are playing US hockey.. No one is out to be "THE STAR"... They just all want to win. They don;t care who scores as long as someone does. No feeding the "shooter". That and I think they as a group have made it a mission to prove to the rest of the Hockey world outside Phoenix that the BS over the summer had "No Effect" on the players...
^ This is exactly correct. You couldn't of said it any better.

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The Coyotes currently have the 21st best powerplay percentage and the 23rd best goals per game. I'd say the powerplay woes are endemic of the overall offensive shortcomings.
More of a comment on that lack of pure skill on this roster than anything else. Fortunately for the Yotes, the amount of skill on a roster is not equitable with success in the playoffs.

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The Coyotes currently have the 21st best powerplay percentage and the 23rd best goals per game. I'd say the powerplay woes are endemic of the overall offensive shortcomings.
True. However, they really don't score many goals per game overall. Of the goals that are scored, the majority of them are on even strength by a HUGE, HUGE margin.

Here's an example. The last Coyotes/Blue Jackets game:

http://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreport...0/GS020541.HTM

Of all the PP opportunities they had, they only converted once.

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More of a comment on that lack of pure skill on this roster than anything else. Fortunately for the Yotes, the amount of skill on a roster is not equitable with success in the playoffs.
...as the Sharks can attest to...

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...as the Sharks can attest to...
First thing I thought of was the Sharks.

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The Coyotes currently have the 21st best powerplay percentage and the 23rd best goals per game. I'd say the powerplay woes are endemic of the overall offensive shortcomings.
A very fair assessment. I'd add that the last few games there are signs that lines are coming together offensively, at least on 5-on-5 play. And that while Tippett juggles the lines looking for O chemistry, the D has not suffered.

If you look at the season, defense and goaltending has been very good from the start; the PK has been steadily improving since week 1; 5-on-5 has been better the last couple of weeks; and any combination of Biz/Korpi/Fiddler/Winnik is a solid #4 line.

Still think we need a true sniper, but I am officially off the "may be time to trade Mueller" cart. He's certainly not quite dead yet.

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First thing I thought of was the Sharks.
In the bigger picture, the Sharks have had better success in the playoffs than the Coyotes and has a roster on paper that can win a cup when the team clicks.
The Sharks can at least make it to the 2nd round when done right vs a team that can't make it past the 1st round in Coyotes history. Don't be surprised if the Sharks make it to the WCF for the 2nd time before we get past the 1st round of the playoffs.
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Sean Burke was a pretty good back up.
Okay, you got me on that one

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In the bigger picture, the Sharks have had better success in the playoffs than the Coyotes and has a roster on paper that can win a cup when the team clicks.
The Sharks can at least make it to the 2nd round when done right vs a team that can't make it past the 1st round in Coyotes history. Don't be surprised if the Sharks make it to the WCF for the 2nd time before we get past the 1st round of the playoffs.
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I realize that, but the Sharks playoff failures still make me laugh even though I rooted for them the last two playoffs.

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Ok after the win tonight we can say that their two main weaknesses are:

1) Power Play
2) Faceoffs

The Kings killed the Coyotes in the faceoffs when it mattered in the latter parts of the game.

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Ok after the win tonight we can say that their two main weaknesses are:

1) Power Play
2) Faceoffs

The Kings killed the Coyotes in the faceoffs when it mattered in the latter parts of the game.

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You couldn't be more wrong about face-off's being the teams weakness.
If you did you're research you would discover this team has 3 of the top 25 face-off men currently in the league.

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You couldn't be more wrong about face-off's being the teams weakness.
If you did you're research you would discover this team has 3 of the top 25 face-off men currently in the league.
Lang at #36 gives them 4 of top 36. As a team #8 overall in the NHL.

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