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12-20-2009, 09:30 AM
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Sweden would probably have won in 2002 with a best of 7.
Totaly outplayed Canada with 5-2 or something like that in the group.
Actually, Sweden had a better team in 2002 than 2006 on all positions except the goalie.
It's bad enough that Canada gets no credit for their success in the World Cup, WJC and the WHC, now our lone OG win is even questioned?

Sweden couldn't beat Belarus! How can you say they were better? Theo Fleury said Canada didn't care about the preliminary round, it was all about the playoffs.

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12-20-2009, 09:57 AM
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Who the hell cares. Even when we do win, it's the refs fault.

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12-20-2009, 12:01 PM
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Yeah Canada could have 2, 3, 4, 5 etc teams... The question is will the team they actualy send win gold...

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12-20-2009, 12:11 PM
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Not possible since no one plays hockey in three continents...Africa, Oceania (Australia) and South America. Then you have a huge part of Asia where it's the same thing.

It's basically Europe northern and central), NA and Russia(+that part of Asia)....that's about it. Japan takes part in the B-group in WC, but I'm willing to bet my ass on hockey being a minimal sport in Japan.

It's a very small sport, couldn't possibly be top-10 world wide.
http://http://www.sportingo.com/all-...ar-team-sports

It's 8th actually.

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12-20-2009, 12:20 PM
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I'm willing to bet my ass on hockey being a minimal sport in Japan.
It's a regional sport in Japan, most of the players come from Hokkaido.

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12-20-2009, 12:28 PM
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How credible is this article when it claims ice hockey to be one of the top 4 sports in Great Britain while failing to even mention Latvia, Kazakhstan, Switzerland or Belarus?

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12-21-2009, 11:48 AM
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That article is full of bull. E.g., FIVB is the biggest organisation in the world, with even more affiliated countries than FIFA (208 vs. 220)! If you think about the amount of players in the world, the list is Football (soccer), Basketball, Volleyball etc... I would also venture to bet that there are plenty of other sports that are more popular, like golf, tennis etc. I don't mind if people want to fool themselves in to believing that ice hockey is an important sport on the international stage, but please don't even try to back it up with any factual evidence...

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12-21-2009, 02:55 PM
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Not possible since no one plays hockey in three continents...Africa, Oceania (Australia) and South America. Then you have a huge part of Asia where it's the same thing.

It's basically Europe northern and central), NA and Russia(+that part of Asia)....that's about it. Japan takes part in the B-group in WC, but I'm willing to bet my ass on hockey being a minimal sport in Japan.

It's a very small sport, couldn't possibly be top-10 world wide.
You could say the same thing for every sport. Theres only one sport thats universal across the world and thats soccer. No other one I can think of.

American football? No. Field hockey? No. Basketball? Sort of, but not really. Cricket? no. Tennis? Volleyball? Golf? Ping Pong? No, no, no.

What is the definition of popularity to you? How many people watch the sport or how many people play the sport? Either way I think hockey is easily a top 10 sport.

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12-21-2009, 03:40 PM
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So by the same token, then England should send multiple teams in soccer/football?

Team USA should bring five baseball teams to the Olympics as well....I think NOT.

Its the Olympics, not some club league. Countries play other countries not themselves. You bring the best of the best. If your not the best then you don't come.

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12-26-2009, 07:56 AM
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Ice hockey is only popular in 7-10 countries. But even in these countries not that many actually play the sport even though they may watch it.

Number of registered players by country

Canada 499,695 1.50%
United States 465,975 0.15%
Czech Republic 97,102 0.95%
Russia 84,720 0.06%
Finland 61,684 1.18%
Sweden 60,374 0.67%
Germany 28,967 0.04%
Switzerland 24,705 0.33%
Japan 21,027 0.02%
France 17,133 0.03%
Austria 10,378 0.13%
Slovakia 8,671 0.16%

Russia isn't producing much more players than Finland but their players are far better than ours. Why is that? And only Canada has more players per population. So Finland is actually underachieving big time in the international hockey scene.

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12-26-2009, 08:28 AM
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How arrogant for a nation that hasn't won a medal in Olympic hockey since 2002, and has only won 1 gold medal in the past 58 years.
You do realize the Olympics are held every 4 years right? It sounds a lot worse than it is. Thats the equivalent of saying the Red Wings suck cause they haven't won the cup since 2008.


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12-26-2009, 08:36 AM
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It is obviously true that Canada would be able to ice 2 or maybe even 3 teams that would be stronger than for example team Finland. On paper.

However, it has not been different at all situation during the last 3 Olympics. It is a team game and a team made of great individuals does not necessarily sum up to a great team. On the other hand a great team of mediocre individuals can have success against anyone. That is the biggest reason why Finland has been so succesful in international level during this decade.

Nagano 1998

Finland - Canada 3 - 2 (game for bronze medals)

Salt Lake City 2002

Finland - Canada 1 - 2 (quarter final)

Torino 2006

Finland - Canada 2 - 0 (preliminary round)

It is a very small sample, obviously but the point is that the names on the paper do not mean that much in the games between any of the top countries in international tournaments.

The biggest difference this year is that Canada has home ice advantage and as the games are being played in a small rink and the north american referees will make a few crucial decisions in favor of the home team in front of fanatic home audience, it is very difficult to see anyone beat Canada in Vancouver. But anything is still possible for any of the top teams.

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12-27-2009, 03:40 PM
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Olympic medalist since 1998:

Nagano 98:
-Czech Rep.
-Russia
-Finland

Salt Lake City 02:

-Canada
-USA
-Sweden

Torino 06

-Sweden
-Finland
-Czech Rep.
Exactly we need all the good players or so called locks to win as nothing is guaranteed

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