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12-18-2009, 07:03 PM
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Don't try to understand.....this guy has been using "good riddance" for a few days now referring to past Rangers who actually helped the team during their time here. I think he's one of the posters here who are still waiting for this great future with Drury.
No, I'm sick of remeniscing about our 3rd liners of the past when we have 8 or 9 third liners right now. The answer to our problem lies in new additions, not bringing back old players. I don't know why so many have a love affair with players that were marginally successful at best in their last seasons with us, Jaromir Jagr included.

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12-18-2009, 07:05 PM
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Average is more than I can say for half our forwards...

I take prucha over

voros
boyle
brashear
lisin
kotalik
higgins

3 bums
a speedster with no finish
and 2 guys with apparently no heart..shame cus i liked higgins
Lisin and Higgins are pretty much the exact same player as Prucha, all hustle no finish.

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12-18-2009, 07:07 PM
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As I posted in Marcel Hossa's personal thread, I want this team for next year:
Marcel Hossa-Brandon Dubinsky-Marian Gaborik
Nigel Dawes-Dominic Moore-Petr Prucha
Jed Ortemeyer-Jarko Immonen-Ryan Callahan
Ryan Hollweg-Blair Betts-Colton Orr

Lauri Korpikoski, Jason Ward (With Greg Moore being on a shuttle from Hartford of course)

Marc Staal-Dan Girardi
Thomas Pock-Fedor Tyutin
Ivan Baranka-Bryce Lampman

David Liffiton (Maxim Kondtratiev ready in Hartford!)

Henrik Lundqvist, Al Montoya (Chris Holt, Antoine Lafluer ready in HFD!)




I also think we should shop Gaborik. Just feels like an outsider on this amazing lineup I've put together.

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12-18-2009, 07:10 PM
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It never ceases to amaze me how much time (and energy) we spend debating the merits of marginal players.

Whether it's Orr, Immonen, Prucha, etc.

To some extent - it's rather comical.

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12-30-2009, 01:28 AM
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It never ceases to amaze me how much time (and energy) we spend debating the merits of marginal players.

Whether it's Orr, Immonen, Prucha, etc.

To some extent - it's rather comical.
Coyotes fan here and I want to weigh in on Prucha and Korpikoski. Not sure where to post so I chose this thread.

Prucha is all we have left from the Morris deal, and his strong two-way play, and all-out hustling style has made him a great fit on our 3rd line with Hanzal and Vrbata (the Czech line). They're a well-established shutdown line that can chip in some points. Prucha seems ideal for that.

Korpikoski got off to a slow start but he's quickly making everyone here forget Lisin. He'll never have the offensive upside Lisin has, but has been brilliant on the PK, has two shootout winners so far, and seems to be gaining confidence in the offensive end. He has made some sick moves with the puck, just seems to be a bit apprehensive at firing it on net. He's also not afraid to bang bodies anywhere on the ice.

Both Pru and Korpi may be bottom-six forwards, but they've found a home here and we're happy to have them.

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12-30-2009, 01:33 AM
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Coyotes fan here and I want to weigh in on Prucha and Korpikoski. Not sure where to post so I chose this thread.

Prucha is all we have left from the Morris deal, and his strong two-way play, and all-out hustling style has made him a great fit on our 3rd line with Hanzal and Vrbata (the Czech line). They're a well-established shutdown line that can chip in some points. Prucha seems ideal for that.

Korpikoski got off to a slow start but he's quickly making everyone here forget Lisin. He'll never have the offensive upside Lisin has, but has been brilliant on the PK, has two shootout winners so far, and seems to be gaining confidence in the offensive end. He has made some sick moves with the puck, just seems to be a bit apprehensive at firing it on net. He's also not afraid to bang bodies anywhere on the ice.

Both Pru and Korpi may be bottom-six forwards, but they've found a home here and we're happy to have them.
If prucha can gain some weight and use that weight for muscle he can be a good top 6 forward.....getting cruched on the boards stops him from that.

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12-30-2009, 07:42 AM
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If prucha can gain some weight and use that weight for muscle he can be a good top 6 forward.....getting cruched on the boards stops him from that.
Unforuntately, people, including me, have been saying this for like 5 years now. It's pretty safe to assume it's not happening

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12-30-2009, 08:32 AM
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He'll never have the offensive upside Lisin has....
The what?

Lisin's grown on me the past week because it's actually starting to look like he's peeking his head around the corner (as opposed to actually turning it), but I still prefer Korps for my 3rd line and PK.

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12-30-2009, 09:04 AM
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It never ceases to amaze me how much time (and energy) we spend debating the merits of marginal players.

Whether it's Orr, Immonen, Prucha, etc.

To some extent - it's rather comical.
Marginally comical ex Ranger Immonen named to Finnish Olympic squad

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=511597

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12-30-2009, 09:50 AM
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Prucha's doing ok but I'm more disgruntled when I see Dawes on pace for 21G & 21A this year ugh. Well done Slats. For a rental defenseman too...

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It never ceases to amaze me how much time (and energy) we spend debating the merits of marginal players.

Whether it's Orr, Immonen, Prucha, etc.

To some extent - it's rather comical.
It's ridiculous, talk about beating a dead horse. It happens around here at least twenty times a day.

I don't know which is worse debating ex Rangers, or this guy I work with who is still hung up on his ex girlfriend from like four years ago.


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Prucha's doing ok but I'm more disgruntled when I see Dawes on pace for 21G & 21A this year ugh. Well done Slats. For a rental defenseman too...
I'd blame the player and coach before I blame Slats with most of these guys. They didn't do enough with the opportunity they got and you have to admit most of us didn't expect them to go on and actually become something legit.

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12-30-2009, 10:12 AM
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good riddance, like he'd have more goals than them on this team. Prucha is gone. So is Jed Ortmeyer. And Colton Orr. And Nigel Dawes.
exactly who cares. Hope he does well but who cares. Its not like they would of done anything on this team anyways.

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12-30-2009, 11:29 AM
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Marginally comical ex Ranger Immonen named to Finnish Olympic squad

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=511597
nice, this made me laugh out loud.

sigh, okay back to the job search.

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12-30-2009, 11:43 AM
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Korpikoski got off to a slow start but he's quickly making everyone here forget Lisin. He'll never have the offensive upside Lisin has, but has been brilliant on the PK, has two shootout winners so far, and seems to be gaining confidence in the offensive end. He has made some sick moves with the puck, just seems to be a bit apprehensive at firing it on net. He's also not afraid to bang bodies anywhere on the ice.

Both Pru and Korpi may be bottom-six forwards, but they've found a home here and we're happy to have them.
I'm a big LK fan, he may not be a top liner, but he's a winner. Uses that nice sized frame and gives it his all.

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Marginally comical ex Ranger Immonen named to Finnish Olympic squad

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=511597
Meh, I liked him too, but he was never gonna make much of a difference, just another bottom line guy who probably wouldve disliked being treated like one.

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12-30-2009, 12:10 PM
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BTW, forgot to throw out that Prucha scored #8 last night .

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12-30-2009, 12:12 PM
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I'm a big LK fan, he may not be a top liner, but he's a winner. Uses that nice sized frame and gives it his all.
Me, too. I would have been okay with not making that deal, and keeping Zherdev for one year, and not signing Kotalik.

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12-30-2009, 01:40 PM
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Unforuntately, people, including me, have been saying this for like 5 years now. It's pretty safe to assume it's not happening
Has prucha even been in the NHL for 5 years?

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12-30-2009, 02:04 PM
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He'll never have the offensive upside Lisin has
That's not saying much for Korpikoski.

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Has prucha even been in the NHL for 5 years?
Yeah. 05-06, 06-07, 07-08, 08-09, 09-10. 5 years. I dont get the obsession with the guy though. He is a 3rd liner who tried hard but had no finish. These kinds of players are everywhere. We have about 5 of em.

He had one good year and then got hurt which ruined his mojo. Get over him.

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Yeah. 05-06, 06-07, 07-08, 08-09, 09-10. 5 years. I dont get the obsession with the guy though. He is a 3rd liner who tried hard but had no finish. These kinds of players are everywhere. We have about 5 of em.

He had one good year and then got hurt which ruined his mojo. Get over him.
I guess 22 goals in 06-07 was not a good year?

I mean when Ryan Callahan scored 22 last year, we called it a great season...

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I guess 22 goals in 06-07 was not a good year?

I mean when Ryan Callahan scored 22 last year, we called it a great season...
With all the inconsistencies he has had finishing lately, he easily can have seasons like that. He's on pace or there abouts this season. The guy is a good hard working third liner with amazing character that can chip in goals. In the right environment (as proven) he can chip in quite a few. I don't really see why that is marginal. I guess with an organization that excels at not actually utilizing players properly, not building lineups based on players complementing each other, etc. etc... I guess I can see players like Dawes and Prucha being simply marginal. I guess any player that you can't pencil in for 30+ goals is marginal.

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12-31-2009, 10:35 AM
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I guess 22 goals in 06-07 was not a good year?

I mean when Ryan Callahan scored 22 last year, we called it a great season...
It depends on what else he brings to the table and what role he is asked to play.

But I can't complain, at least we're no longer debating Mike York. He scored 28 goals his rookie year, which was his career year, and it was all down hill from there. It took us until he was about 30 for those arguments to disappear.

So I guess the Prucha hype still has about 2 more years worth of steam.

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Someone should put together a collection of hits being absorbed by Prucha.

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The Prucha argument will never be settled. Both sides of the argument will never see the other point of view.

It's a ridiculous to argue till you're blue in the face because the both parties are far too stubborn.

We will still have a few years of hate yet, along with the love.

I was, and still am, a Prucha fan.

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Someone should put together a collection of hits being absorbed by Prucha.
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