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01-01-2010, 10:54 AM
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Why Voros must play over Brashear

Voros plays with passion- he always has.
Brashear played with passion years ago in Philly- he hasnt since.

Voros will fight a guy who is running Rangers.
Brashear will only fight when a goon is really pressing the issue.

Voros will throw the body- hitting anyone he can.
Brashear will try to play the puck- but lacks the skill.

Voros is aggression.
Brashear is safe. "Safe is death."

Voros needs to get a string of 4-5 games in a row to play.
Brashear needs to be a healthy scratch to bring back the passion.


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01-01-2010, 11:20 AM
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Voros is the better player. Brash has been a big dissapointment, IMO.

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Not exactly a Voros fan, but yes.

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Aaron Voros looks like a completely different fighter. He is actually winning fights this year. Anyone hear if he did any different offseason training or has been getting tips from Brashear?

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Brashear is giving advices to Voros, no doubt. Just look at the couple of times during games at the beginning of season, when both were talking to each other after Voros fought. You could see the "complicity" between the two. There's worse mentors out there to learn some tricks. Brashear is certainly good at that. And I'm repeating what I was saying in the GDT, I sincerely missed Voros...

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01-01-2010, 12:09 PM
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Voros makes a great 4th liner.... 6-8 mins, hits, fights... Drop Brashear ASAP... friggin old stiff!

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01-01-2010, 01:02 PM
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yes. Voros has made decent use of his ice time.

never wanted Brashear here to begin with.

Sweet watching Betts score at MSG the other night. good for him

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osminator said it perfect. Low minutes he hits, he fights, he stickes up for his team, and he is very entertaining to watch when being used correctly

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01-01-2010, 03:29 PM
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I would definitely rather see Voros on the ice, but rather for my own sanity than any significant impact. With the problems this team has, getting Voros on the ice is not a solution for success.

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01-01-2010, 03:42 PM
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Never understood the Brash signing. Total stupidity.

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Brashear took us out of the playoffs single-handedly last year. That hit on Betts totally intimidated our entire roster and took the wind completely out of our sails.

Suddenly our guys realized that could have been them (Betts) and we started playing tentatively which is all a guy like Ovechkin needs: a moment of hesitation.

Ironically, this is exactly the type of play (not the dirty part, clearly Betts was blind-sided) that the Rangers need in order to be competitive. Hard, intimidating hits on opposing forwards (as well as defensemen). Not fighting, which does nothing accept get the other team fired up.

Fighting is a choice any player can walk away from without really hurtung the team. Play tentative to avoid being hit and you give the other team all kinds of chances, and get very little scoring chances for your team.

This is what we have. Now we have Brashear and he does nothing.


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01-01-2010, 06:25 PM
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Voros is guy i like as a person, but boy does he find ways to play bad and make mistakes. I mean he does not use his size to his benefit, much like Boyle. Brasher although hasent done it that much this year, has shown he can shield the puck every now and then. Whenever i see Voros it looks like he is totally of balance, in a panic and in many cases taking a stupid penalty. It is odd to see him talk and than see him on the ice, sorry he just doesent play smart and i guess lacks the ability to improve from what i have seen. Sorry but until he learns how to play, i just dont see why he should be played.

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I'm pleasantly surprised by Voros' improved fighting ability. I was arguing with a guy on the Fights Board about how terrible Voros was at fighting--I argued that he was bottom of the barrel. Now I feel stupid.

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its not Voros' friggin job to win games for the NYR... his job needs to be 6-8 mins a game, hit, pester, fight and give the others a breather... when will people stop pinning success or failure to the poor guy??? its the "scorers" that need to be scrutinized, not Voros...

GET RID OF BRASHEAR... TOP 5 WORST SIGNING SINCE I'VE BEEN A FAN!

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although i'm not the biggest voros fan, he has been playing like he wants to be on this team.

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As long as Voros can avoid taking penalties in his limited ice time, I agree, he should continue to see the ice in Brashear's place.

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Being the only one here with a 34 Voros jersey… This thread is bringing a tear to my eye….

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01-02-2010, 11:14 AM
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Voros > Brashear. Neither Voros or Brashear have a lot of skill. Voros will stand up for teammates. Brashear won't even fight anymore. But the biggest thing Voros cares. He tries. Donald Brashear does not care. And he has no heart. And it shows. Big time. It is an embarrassment to see him in the Rangers jersey.

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its not Voros' friggin job to win games for the NYR... his job needs to be 6-8 mins a game, hit, pester, fight and give the others a breather... when will people stop pinning success or failure to the poor guy??? its the "scorers" that need to be scrutinized, not Voros...

GET RID OF BRASHEAR... TOP 5 WORST SIGNING SINCE I'VE BEEN A FAN!



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01-02-2010, 11:28 AM
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Voros plays with passion- he always has.
Brashear played with passion years ago in Philly- he hasnt since.

Voros will fight a guy who is running Rangers.
Brashear will only fight when a goon is really pressing the issue.

Voros will throw the body- hitting anyone he can.
Brashear will try to play the puck- but lacks the skill.

Voros is aggression.
[B]Brashear is safe. "Safe is death."

Voros needs to get a string of 4-5 games in a row to play.
Brashear needs to be a healthy scratch to bring back the passion.


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I have to disagree on this one point. Brashear isn't safe. How many times has he given up the puck infront of the net this season? Been out skated? Been on the ice after a goal?How many non-fight related PIMs? How many times have the Rangers needed their fighter to give them that spark and he went on the ice and did nothing? How many times in both games vs Philly, a team of goons, and still no fight? How many times have players had to fight their own battles bec he won't?
I beg to differ about Brashear being safe. He makes me cringe every time he gets on the ice.

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Yes, since Voros can fight he is actually a useful player, and I agree he has been much much better than Brashear.
On the other hand, next year Brashear will cost us 1.4 million in cap space, whether he is in Hartford or on our roster. So it might be a matter of cap space that will force us to waive Voros next season.

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its not Voros' friggin job to win games for the NYR... his job needs to be 6-8 mins a game, hit, pester, fight and give the others a breather... when will people stop pinning success or failure to the poor guy??? its the "scorers" that need to be scrutinized, not Voros...

GET RID OF BRASHEAR... TOP 5 WORST SIGNING SINCE I'VE BEEN A FAN!
I don't love the signing either, but there have been way worse since I started watching the Rangers when I was a little kid in 1990.

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Voros > Brashear. Neither Voros or Brashear have a lot of skill. Voros will stand up for teammates. Brashear won't even fight anymore. But the biggest thing Voros cares. He tries. Donald Brashear does not care. And he has no heart. And it shows. Big time. It is an embarrassment to see him in the Rangers jersey.
If Brashear has no heart, then I don't even want to think about what guys like Kotalik don't have. Brashear's got an injury that really seems to be holding him back. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, because there are a lot of negative things you could say about Brashear but I don't think not caring or not having heart is something that's even been an issue with Brashear in his entire career.

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I don't love the signing either, but there have been way worse since I started watching the Rangers when I was a little kid in 1990.
i started back in 1993... names that pop up immediately are Skrudland, Keane, Scott Fraser, Tim Sweeney, Bill Berg, Kevin Stevens, Kamensky... the list doesn't end... simply brutal

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Voros is an amazing team/locker room guy. Whenever I meet a player, it seems like they are always talking about Voros. He seems like everyones best friend on the team.

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