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01-06-2010, 05:53 PM
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blues/oilers

Oil get
Sydor 1mil - cap hit - ufa
Berglund 1.247mil - cap hit - 3yrs

Blues get
Nilsson 2mil- cap hit - 1yr then rfa
Gilbert 4mil - cap hit - 4yrs


8.147 left in cap space left for Blues.
the extra 3.753 they would take on leaves 4.394 to play around with by trade deadline if they need to.

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01-06-2010, 05:55 PM
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I really doubt the Blues would ever do that.

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Blues get the short end on the deal and take salary? I'm guessing they would say no.

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No from the Blues. Giving up the best player in the deal (Berglund) and taking salary. Nope.

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Yes please.

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Yes from the Oil, Big HELL NO from a Blues POV.


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Cogliano instead of Nilsson prehaps?

any other thoughts?
other then "yes yes yes" and "no no no"?

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01-06-2010, 06:11 PM
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maybe a why, to the no?

taking on salary is yeah a negative, but the blues do have the cap room.

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maybe a why, to the no?

taking on salary is yeah a negative, but the blues do have the cap room.
both Oiler players are basically salary dumps at this point, even if Gilbert was playing like he was last season the Blues still wouldn't do it.

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01-06-2010, 06:15 PM
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IMO, and this may be just me, but Berglund is on the level of someone like Gagner. Basically he is the Oiler's Gagner, a franchise guy.

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01-06-2010, 06:16 PM
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Sorry for the yes/no post, Cogliano would be better also im not sure but mabey a pick as well. I think it's more a money thing on the Blues side not really a player thing.


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01-06-2010, 06:17 PM
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The Blues probably don't want to take any defensemen back in a trade, especially ones with long-term contracts. Guys like Alex Pietrangelo, Jonas Junland, and Ian Cole are going to be fighting for spots over the next couple of seasons. Erik Johnson and Roman Polak are almost surely going to be Blues for the foreseeable future. Eric Brewer and Barret Jackman are also signed through next season. The Blues might also try to re-sign Colaiacovo if the price is right. It's a pretty crowded situation.

Also, I think the Blues want to hold on to Berglund and see how he progresses rather than give him up when he's struggling.

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maybe a why, to the no?

taking on salary is yeah a negative, but the blues do have the cap room.
The third and fourth posts in the thread make it clear: the value isn't there and it's not a fit. The Blues have a lot of money wrapped up in veteran defense, and they have plenty of defense overall, they're just waiting for them to grow into impact players. They're looking for snipers and big, scoring forwards. That's Berglund. And despite Berglund's struggles, 1. his stock hasn't dropped at all, and 2. it's a downgrade because they're not in a position to win now.

They have their work cut out for them to make the playoffs this year and this deal doesn't help. So if you're looking at next year and beyond, how does this help? They're getting Kariya and Tkachuk off the books. Yea, they have to re-sign some RFAs, but they'll have a little money to toss around to get the guy they want. This deal is just not how they'll want to spend their money.

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01-06-2010, 06:22 PM
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maybe a why, to the no?

taking on salary is yeah a negative, but the blues do have the cap room.
The Blues are really going to need this salary coming up with some of the young players like Oshie, Perron, Johnson etc.

The Blues are not getting the best player in the deal.

And the Blues take back more salary.

I don't see the need for this trade.

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01-06-2010, 06:30 PM
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thanks guys.
lots of info here as to why this proposal isn't workable.

the blues needing salary to sign their upcoming younger players probably being the main point.
hopefully Berglund works out for the blues then. saw him struggling this year, didn't know what to think of it.

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