I think Ryan Stone or JF Jaques would beat him in a fight. I can't really understand what the definition is of a middleweight. A guy in and around 220?
Yeah than I think those 2 would definitely win in a fight.
Stone has 1 win at the NHL, and you definitely think he would beat Clowe?
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Carcillo, Rypien, Janssen and Asham are all better.
Not to mention Neil, who is better than half the guys you listed.
I think Ryan Stone or JF Jaques would beat him in a fight. I can't really understand what the definition is of a middleweight. A guy in and around 220?
Yeah than I think those 2 would definitely win in a fight.
Wow. I am an Oilers fan but Stone would get destroyed in a fight with Clowe. I can see JFJ having a good fight with him, but Stone? Really?
So Clowe at 6'2" 225 is a middleweight while Shawn Thornton at 6'1" 217 is a light heavy? Naaah. Clowe is a heavy and Thornton can and has beaten Clowe.
So Clowe at 6'2" 225 is a middleweight while Shawn Thornton at 6'1" 217 is a light heavy? Naaah. Clowe is a heavy and Thornton can and has beaten Clowe.
Thornton is 6'2. I know you want to make your argument stronge but...
Clowe and Thornton had a draw in their first and only fight.
And i doubt he is only 217 (i know nhl.com says he is).
Just to name a few:
Jannsen
Bissonnette
Carcillo
Thornton
even Staubitz of the Sharks is more of a threat than Clowe
Clowe is a better fighter than Staubitz.
Just so everyone knows this was just a question as i dont really know all of the middle weights' fighting records nor have i seen all of them.
But of that list I would take Clowe over Carcillo in a fight. The rest are pretty even. IMO a really really good comparison to Clowe is Thornton (fighting wise).
I think Ryan Stone or JF Jaques would beat him in a fight. I can't really understand what the definition is of a middleweight. A guy in and around 220?
Yeah than I think those 2 would definitely win in a fight.
Clowe is nowhere near the best middle-weight in the league, but he'd wipe the ice with Ryan Stone's face if they ever fought.
Just so everyone knows this was just a question as i dont really know all of the middle weights' fighting records nor have i seen all of them.
But of that list I would take Clowe over Carcillo in a fight. The rest are pretty even. IMO a really really good comparison to Clowe is Thornton (fighting wise).
I wasnt trying to jump on you at all man, I was just giving you a few names. Check out Hockeyfights.com they have all you need to know about these guys, with their fight cards and all the stuff.
Thornton is 6'2. I know you want to make your argument stronge but...
Clowe and Thornton had a draw in their first and only fight.
And i doubt he is only 217 (i know nhl.com says he is).
Most sites say 6'1" I believe but, whatever, height doesn't really matter. Thornton is around 217. Dropyourgloves.com has him at only 209. During the Winter Classic, the tale of the tape had him at 217.
Anyways, the point is, Clowe, for sure is not a middleweight and Thornton beat him in their first and only fight.
As many have said, Clowe's size is far from middleweight.
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out of all the top middleweight guys i think clowe is the most skilled player. i would take him on my team over any of the other guys mentioned. as for fighting im not sure if he is the best but he can certainly handle most guys on the ice.
I'd say Iginla and Lecavalier are the most skilled.
Ok i guess what i meant by middle weight is "light heavyweight".
Clowe is 6'2 225 but that is not heavy weight size.
Iginla and Lecavalier are not in Clowe's catagory.
Clowe is the best fighter of guys that can/have score 50+ points.
Heavyweight is typically >200-205 lbs. I don't see why Clowe wouldn't be classed as a heavy at 225, among the likes of Brashear, Godard, etc. Chara/Boogard/Laraque are getting close to Super Heavy territory, but they're all still Heavies IMO.
Lecavalier is ~220 lbs, Iginla ~210 lbs. I don't think Clowe would rag doll either of them, and I fail to see why they wouldn't be in the same category.
Clowe might be the best and most skilled 225 lbs fighter named Clowe, though.
I think size is not a factor when it comes to "weight class". You are who you fight, If you fight Laraque, Godard, Orr, Boogeyman etc. Then you are a heavyweight. If you're fighting guys like Asham, Carcillo, etc. you are a middleweight. Two example of heavyweights that didn't have the size are Tie Domi and Stan Jonathan.
Chris Neil Shawn Thornton, and Cam Janssen would be heavyweights. whereas Clowe and Malone for example are middleweights not because of size but because of fighting skill.
That's how I see it at least. But to answer the question, no Clowe isn't the best middleweight. Right now I'd say Rypien, Carcillo, and Asham are in the running for the top middleweight. Although Carcillo will often fight out of his class (both above and below).
LOL post the only one he gets his ass kicked. He lost his balance, big deal. Anyway, he's definitely an underrated fighter, but I wouldn't go as far as to say he's the best in his class.
I hope youre not talking about that video. He took a SOLID left right on the button which dropped him. Thats not losing your balance.
