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Mike Richter or Henrik Lundqvist

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Mike Richter 83 30.97%
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01-07-2010, 06:05 PM
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Can Hank please get to the conf finals before we make him great!!!!

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I wanted to bring this thread back up and see what everyone thinks now. I see the the poll favors Richter, which shocked me. I honestly would choose Richter over Henrik, but I always thought I was in the minority. Interested to see if most feel the same way two years later.

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02-10-2012, 11:31 AM
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Can Hank please get to the conf finals before we make him great!!!!
Why is the individual performance of Lundqvist measured against a team accomplishment?

Noone has been able to answer that question.

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02-10-2012, 11:38 AM
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ill take Hank, but watching Mike from his rookie year on i loved. the boy can move!

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02-10-2012, 11:41 AM
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Yes, the infamous, "So and so doesn't have a Cup. They suck" argument.
Henrik has played on some **** teams, that would have been racing for lottery picks rather than playoff spots without him.
This team, this year, and in the next few years, has a chance to go far. I'd really hate to see the organization waste a talent of Henrik's caliber.

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02-10-2012, 11:42 AM
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i'd take Lundqvist. but good god, Richter's prime was outstanding.

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02-10-2012, 11:49 AM
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The poll is exactly 50/50, but I'm not going to vote.

I didn't watch the rangers when Richter was playing so I can't make an unbiased judgement.

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02-10-2012, 11:57 AM
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Why is the individual performance of Lundqvist measured against a team accomplishment?

Noone has been able to answer that question.
Then let's get the answer from Peter Noone.

I remember when some fans explained to me that Ray Bourque was not great because he never won with Boston.

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02-10-2012, 12:03 PM
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Believe it or not, there are some great players that haven't won a Cup. Shocker, I know.
Meanwhile, Matt Cooke has a ring.

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02-10-2012, 12:19 PM
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Believe it or not, there are some great players that haven't won a Cup. Shocker, I know.
Meanwhile, Matt Cooke has a ring.
Mike Gartner comes to mind.

He really got screwed out of a Cup with the Rangers.

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02-10-2012, 12:27 PM
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Don't feel it'd be right to vote as I'm too young to have seen Richter play, but Hank is amazing.

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02-10-2012, 12:29 PM
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Does Richter get to wear the bulky pads that today's goalies wear? If so, it's a really hard decision. Lundqvist will end up being the better goalie though. (Shoulder pads are clearly bigger now)

Richter - Wiki Listed at 5'11 - 190
http://www.thehockeynews.com/imgs/dy...le_18013_2.jpg

Lundqvist - Wiki Listed at 6'1 - 185
http://rangers.nhl.com/ext/yearbook0..._Lundqvist.jpg


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02-10-2012, 12:45 PM
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Why is the individual performance of Lundqvist measured against a team accomplishment?

Noone has been able to answer that question.
Because without Richter the Rangers would not have won the cup.

He was absolutely insane during those playoffs. Inhuman.

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02-10-2012, 12:49 PM
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Lundqvist would win a cup if he had a team like Richter did,

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Does Richter get to wear the bulky pads that today's goalies wear? If so, it's a really hard decision. Lundqvist will end up being the better goalie though. (Shoulder pads are clearly bigger now)

Richter - Wiki Listed at 5'11 - 190
http://www.thehockeynews.com/imgs/dy...le_18013_2.jpg

Lundqvist - Wiki Listed at 6'1 - 185
http://rangers.nhl.com/ext/yearbook0..._Lundqvist.jpg
I grew up watching Mike Richter play, he is my favorite Ranger of all time.

That being said...I take Lundqvist.

Richter's peak (94-97) was incredible. When the Rangers hit the skids even #35's acrobatic heroics were not enough to carry the Rangers to the post season. It killed me to watch him play on those Ranger teams. He deserved better towards the end.

Lundqvist..barring injury or some freak accident where he totally forgets how to play goal..will most likely retire as the greatest Ranger netminder of all time.

Cup or no cup.

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02-10-2012, 12:56 PM
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it's really hard to compare goalies across different eras.

with that said, richter's cup run in '94 and world cup run the summer of '96 were unreal.

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02-10-2012, 01:19 PM
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Because without Richter the Rangers would not have won the cup.

He was absolutely insane during those playoffs. Inhuman.
He had his moments. He wasnt the team's best player, and it was a team that had already won the president's trophy.

Im not going to take anything away from Richter, but to paint him as the primary reason that team won a cup is flat-out revisionist history.

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02-10-2012, 01:24 PM
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Henrik Lundqvist is the better goalie imho. But Richter was amazing during his prime as well.

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Because without Richter the Rangers would not have won the cup.

He was absolutely insane during those playoffs. Inhuman.
Alright, sorry but I have to ***** about this a bit....

A trash can could have been in net in the first 2 rounds of '94. I hope we agree on that.

Two moments stick out for me after that for Richter. Game 6 against the Devils - that game could've been far worse, but he kept it at 2-0. And game 4 against the Canucks, specifically the Bure penalty shot. And even in that series, he was largely outplayed by MacLean, especially in game 1.

So Im curious to see what your definition of "inhuman" is. In my opinion, what Lundqvist has done with largely **** teams in front of him over the years is a true goalie accomplishment.

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02-10-2012, 01:26 PM
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Hank is the best goalie I've ever seen in my 19 years of life. (saw Roy, Richter, Hasek later on in their careers)

Am I crazy for saying this?

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02-10-2012, 01:33 PM
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Just based on talent, Lundqvist AINEC.

But Richter is special because of the Cup and the many years he spent here. He was always my favorite.

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02-10-2012, 01:41 PM
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Hank is the best goalie I've ever seen in my 19 years of life. (saw Roy, Richter, Hasek later on in their careers)

Am I crazy for saying this?
In your 19 years? No. I wouldn't say you're crazy. You should definitely go check out some of Haseks highlights if you haven't already.

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02-10-2012, 01:57 PM
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Lundqvist, without question, is more talented than Richter.

But prime Mike Richter was one of the greatest "big game" goaltenders in recent history. If I had to pick one for a Game 7, it would have to be prime Richter.

Hopefully Lundqvist has the opportunity to establish his big game reputation (Gold Medal aside).


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02-10-2012, 02:12 PM
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It's a scary thought of where this team would be without Hank.

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02-10-2012, 02:13 PM
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This is a debate I have had with many of my Rangers friends, and I have to say Richter hands down. He stole so many games for us when the defense was horrible. If he had this defense core in front of him He would have won so many more games, and don't bring up the cup year, I mean shortly after that when the defense was horrible other then Leetch.

Lundqvist will put up bigger numbers but I think Richter was better. Just remember the World Cup when Ricther beat team Canada 2x in Montreal he stood on his head and won the MVP. He was something else.

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