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01-02-2010, 12:57 PM
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Funny how you are very lonely in your category...

When your thinking is opposite of the vast majority, usually that means that you are the one who's wrong

The guy did not even get a contract this summer with is 14 goals and +5, there is a reason...
How can you be the teams biggest bargain at 750K.... yet he's only worth 1 Million?
Which one is it?

LOL

I know his defensive game will most likely be the weakest on any team. But he can also play forward - is he such a liability as a 4th liner?

Why is he in the NHL?

Because he can shoot the ****ing puck and score goals. He's also a decent passer and can gain zone better than most bottom pairing defensemen.

Who's on the ice in the last minute of a game when we're down by a goal?
Oh by the way, he's 6th in the league in Game winners - not bad for a guy who missed training camp and the first 7 games of the season.

Again, he's underpaid at 750K but he's really worth 1 Million...... sure buddy!

And do you know how much he was demanding in the off-season? Maybe he was holding out for 3 Million or more. I'm sure there was a team out there that would of given him 1.5. But he wanted a big long term deal. Before he knew it, he was on the outside looking in and signed with the Habs for a one year stint.

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01-02-2010, 01:25 PM
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How can you be the teams biggest bargain at 750K.... yet he's only worth 1 Million?
Which one is it?

LOL

I know his defensive game will most likely be the weakest on any team. But he can also play forward - is he such a liability as a 4th liner?

Why is he in the NHL?

Because he can shoot the ****ing puck and score goals. He's also a decent passer and can gain zone better than most bottom pairing defensemen.

Who's on the ice in the last minute of a game when we're down by a goal?
Oh by the way, he's 6th in the league in Game winners - not bad for a guy who missed training camp and the first 7 games of the season.

Again, he's underpaid at 750K but he's really worth 1 Million...... sure buddy!

And do you know how much he was demanding in the off-season? Maybe he was holding out for 3 Million or more. I'm sure there was a team out there that would of given him 1.5. But he wanted a big long term deal. Before he knew it, he was on the outside looking in and signed with the Habs for a one year stint.
I never said he was the biggest bargain. Nice way of making stuff up to try and validate your point

Is he a liability as a 4th liner...YES. Not a big one, but one none the less. A 4th liner is suppose to bring grit and energy, which he doesn't. He actually has no purpose as a 4th liner except trying to not get scored on. Now that is a great role on a team

As for his attributes, thanks for listing them, but we all know them and they are the same as last year when he got no offers, so go a head on convince your self that some how he is worth way more now than last year.

Game winners are more a coincidence than an asset. Some years some players get a lot and some years they don't. It as no impact on his negociation rights BTW. A first goal in the game or the game winner are as valuable to the team.

Its well known and documented that MAB had a terrible D reputation in the league which is why he got no offers this summer, despite is 14 goals and +5. He did not hold out for any contract. A guy in his position just goes for a contract to secure a spot in the NHL. He was in no position to wait for the best offer this summer. A little reality and facts in your analysis would go a long way.

He is not underpaid at 750K. If not for that offer, he would be retired or in the minors. The Habs have actually saved is NHL career. Its all about situational analysis my friend. I said it, and I will say it again, I'm willing to go up to 1.5 max but anything beyond that is overpayment.

He probably won't even repeat this year's stats next year. You don't overpay a guy for 1 good year. You pay them well for many good years. Its like Plek, anyone who thinks he will get 6M+ is just insane. Look for Marc Savard type of money at 4.5M.

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I never said he was the biggest bargain. Nice way of making stuff up to try and validate your point
I didn't mean to imply that you said he was the biggest bargain - sorry for assuming that its generally a fact. And for the record, you do not think he's a bargain at 750?

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Is he a liability as a 4th liner...YES. Not a big one, but one none the less. A 4th liner is suppose to bring grit and energy, which he doesn't. He actually has no purpose as a 4th liner except trying to not get scored on. Now that is a great role on a team

4th line is a perfect place to put a 7th defenseman who can score 15 + goals a year, many of them on the PP and in crucial moments of the game. And in case you haven't noticed, 4th liners don't play all that much. And if they don't let in goals they're doing ok. If two of the forwards are fast, gritty, hard hitting, what's wrong with MAB as a potential "finisher" for some production? You're basically saying it's better to have 3 4th liners (grit, speed etc) that are going to play 10 minutes or less a game max than 2 typical 4th liners + a PP specialist who can produce. I disagree.

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Its well known and documented that MAB had a terrible D reputation in the league which is why he got no offers this summer, despite is 14 goals and +5. He did not hold out for any contract. A guy in his position just goes for a contract to secure a spot in the NHL. He was in no position to wait for the best offer this summer. A little reality and facts in your analysis would go a long way.
1. Quoting you - "Well as for his faults, thanks for listing them, but we all know this".
2. He just wanted to secure a contract? You think if he was willing to accept 750K he still wouldn't of been picked-up? Teach us more master!
3. How do you know how much he was asking for? I can't say this with 100% certainty, but I recall hearing reports that he wanted something along the lines of 3 + per year. Obviously he didn't get signed at that. But there's a happy medium between 750K and 3 something, isn't there? And you do realize he was making 1.7 last year, right?

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Game winners are more a coincidence than an asset. Some years some players get a lot and some years they don't. It as no impact on his negociation rights BTW. A first goal in the game or the game winner are as valuable to the team.
He's getting GW's because he's given the opportunity to get them! This is very situational too. Anyways, you're not going to get many GW's if your not scoring goals.

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He is not underpaid at 750K. If not for that offer, he would be retired or in the minors.
Epic comment my friend. Again,he wasn't looking for 750K, he held out and got shafted! If he wanted 750K, which team in their right mind would not sign a PP specialist that will score like him? It makes no sense! BG got lucky that he didn't sign elsewhere for 750K before he nabbed him. He's just far too productive offensively to not be in the NHL.

Lastly, I would try my best to sign him for 1.5, but I think he'll be offered 2 Million elsewhere, and I think he'll take the money too (where there's lower taxes to boot). Hope I'm wrong, but if we don't sign him for 1.5 during the season, I think he will get more in the summer... Not 3 Million, but still significantly more to make it worth it. 2 Million in a u.s market is like making twice as much as in Quebec at 1.5 Million.

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01-02-2010, 02:34 PM
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Carey Price at 3.4M?
Try to compare with other goalers at the same age.
This is the market for goalers...

He is 22. Look at the salary of any 22 years old goaler. Do not limit yourself, look at 25 years old...

So you think that a 22 years old Price, diserve same as Fleury and Ward?
My name is not BG Pam, I don't hold a front office job, I'm not an agent...

All I know is that MAB is a bargain at 750K! lol
And that Price will get an increase!

How much do you give him?

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01-02-2010, 02:43 PM
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How much do you give him?
Depends on term.

If its a 1-2-3 year deal, it's not much if any of a raise. Probably somewhere in the 2.5-3M per year range.. He still has alot to prove.

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I've done it!!!

By the use of CapGeek, the reading of this thread and four assumptions, this is what I devised:

Assumptions
1) BGL retires a Hab
2) BoB will maintain an experienced defense in front of Price - which cuts any cap flexibility via trade of either Hamrlik, Spacek or Gill.
3) BoB will not bring too many new fresh faces in the roster
4) Gomez not going anywhere. Him and Gionta will be Habs for at least 3 years of their 5 year contract.

Forwards
Scott Gomez — $7,357,142
Mike Cammalleri — $6,000,000
Brian Gionta — $5,000,000
* Tomas Plekanec — $4,000,000 (Front loaded long term - 5 years at least - Savard's contrat is a terrific benchmark)
Andrei Kostitsyn — $3,250,000 ( Should try to extend at same amount in order to better fit him later on when Gomez and Gionta contrats are due )
Travis Moen — $1,500,000
* Sergei Kostitsyn — $1,000,000 (a bit more to keep him around)
Max Pacioretty — $910,000
* Maxim Lapierre — $850,000 (not performing enough to get the 7 digit amount)
Ryan White ($215,000) $850,000
* Benoit Pouliot — $750,000 (yet to prove his real value)
* Tom Pyatt — $600,000

As for White and Pyatt, any other body from Hamilton would have the same cost (give or so a pennie or two... )

Defense
Andrei Markov — $5,750,000
Roman Hamrlik — $5,500,000
Jaroslav Spacek — $3,833,333
Hal Gill — $2,250,000 (PK specialist)
* Marc-Andre Bergeron — $1,200,000 (PP specialist and extra attacker)
Josh Gorges — $1,100,000
Ryan O'Byrne — $941,666
P.K. Subban — $875,000 (if not him, we will need another body anyway)

Goaltenders
* Carey Price — $2,875,000 (Following Pam19's post - if I understood well)
* Sanford or Desjardins or whomever — $600,000 (this amount is low and should be moreso around 0.850M)

ROSTER SIZE 22
SALARY CAP $56,800,000
PAYROLL $56,992,141
BONUSES $215,000
CAP SPACE $22,859 ( too tight... )

Lineup
Cammalleri - Plekanec - A.Kostitsyn
S.Kostitsyn - Gomez - Gionta
Pacioretty - Lapierre - Pouliot
Moen - Pyatt - White
MAB

Markov - O'Byrne
Hamrlik - Spacek
Gill - Gorges
Subban

I would of loved to keep Metropolit at between 1.2 and 1.5M but I'm afraid he will be sacrificed.


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01-05-2010, 09:52 AM
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MAB is overpaid here. Nonetheless, the fact remains the same, we're going to be tight up against the cap. I predict Hamrlik or Gomez get traded.
I say Hamrlik is traded. He is 36, only going to be 1 more year anyway and veterans like this have decent trade value at deadline. Plus Subban can take his place and provide more offense.

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By the use of CapGeek, the reading of this thread and four assumptions, this is what I devised:

[,000 (if not him, we will need another body anyway)

Goaltenders
* Carey Price — $2,875,000 .
I can't see Price signing that cheap. Another team will try and steal him first. A Penner type more. Unless Price has a bad agent.

Young franchise goalies are hard to come by. At least on team will gamble and throw a big contract at Price hoping we can't match where we are against the cap. Maybe offer up close to Kessel type money, and give up 2 first round picks. 4.9 million a season or so. Whatever the compensation is on that.

If I was a GM from another team drafting late I know I would make the offer. Then pair Price up with a cheap veteran.


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Laraque should quit to go pursue a career in UFC where people "agree" to fight him.

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I did a brief rundown how our cap situation will stand in 2010-11. Came out at 62.6, we need to shave at least 6 million off of this. It could be higher than 62.6 as I went a little light on Price, I feel there is a strong chance another club will throw big contract at him knowing we are up against the cap. Price could stand to get around 5 million if he goes the RFA route. I also kept Hamrlik, I wanted to trade him in March while his value is at its highest but general consensus of the board is they want to keep him. Other moves - I kept Laraque but good possibly he will be replaced. Moving him only saves 1 million or so as another player has to take his spot. Not really a big issue. I let Mets, Mara, Dags, walk replace with younger players.

Gomez 7.357
Plekanec 5.5
White 0.85
Lapierre 1

Cammerilli 6
A.Kostitsyn 3.4
Pouliot 0.803
Pacioretty 0.875

Gionta 5
S.Kostitsyn 1.5
Pyatt 0.5
Larocque 1.5

Bergeron 1.5
Moen 1.5

O'Bryne 0.94
Hamrilk 5.5
Markov 5.75
Spacek 3.83
Gorges 1.1
Gill 2.2
Subban 1

Price 3.5
Halak 1.5

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I did a brief rundown how our cap situation will stand in 2010-11. Came out at 62.6, we need to shave at least 6 million off of this. It could be higher than 62.6 as I went a little light on Price, I feel there is a strong chance another club will throw big contract at him knowing we are up against the cap. Price could stand to get around 5 million if he goes the RFA route. I also kept Hamrlik, I wanted to trade him in March while his value is at its highest but general consensus of the board is they want to keep him. Other moves - I kept Laraque but good possibly he will be replaced. Moving him only saves 1 million or so as another player has to take his spot. Not really a big issue. I let Mets, Mara, Dags, walk replace with younger players.

Gomez 7.357
Plekanec 5.5
White 0.85
Lapierre 1

Cammerilli 6
A.Kostitsyn 3.4
Pouliot 0.803
Pacioretty 0.875

Gionta 5
S.Kostitsyn 1.5
Pyatt 0.5
Larocque 1.5

Bergeron 1.5
Moen 1.5

O'Bryne 0.94
Hamrilk 5.5
Markov 5.75
Spacek 3.83
Gorges 1.1
Gill 2.2
Subban 1

Price 3.5
Halak 1.5
Yes, we are pretty screwed if we want Plekanec back. Something has to give, because status quo after signing Plekanec is impossible.

With that said, Halak won't be back next year for cap reasons.
Laraque will not be back, one would think. There's a cap hit if we buy him out too.
We'll see if Bob offers 1.5 for SK - maybe he will to keep him around for AK's sake.
Unlike everyone else, I'm not convinced MAB will sign for 1.5.

All in all, it's a very messy situation, where we see our team losing our 3rd line center who's pacing 20goals, with nobody to replace him, and potentially a solid D in Hamrlik to shed salary. If we trade Hamrlik and Halak, we can't take back any salary beyond league minimum - unless we just think of the Playoffs and worry about next season in the summer.

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LOL @ people thinking Pleks will get 6M+/yr (as if he is as valuable as Kane/Toews and others).

LOL @ people thinking Price will break the bank. He hasn't proved nothing yet.

Price will probably sign a short-term contract, as he probably believes his skills and hence his value will go up in the short term. I'm thinking... $10m/3yr. OR..... he may decide to sign long-term with MTL, believing he's truly the one for the team and sign a longer deal (no DiPietro like.. but it could be... if Gainey is confident enough Price won't be a bust and will actually improve and mature).. which could look like a $50m/10yrs with performance incentives.

Price, it's all over the place for him. We don't know yet if the guy wants to be the franchise goalie MTL wants :S and we don't know if he can be it (as Halak has been his equal so far since 2008).

For Plekanec, he'll probably earn $6M, but his cap hit will be far less than that. I'm thinking along the lines of 4.5 - 5.25M. Like a 50M/10 yr deal, frontloaded (like 30M in the 5 years of the deal or something).

No way Pleks will have a cap hit superior to 6M. He hasn't shown consistent output to deserve so.

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Next years cap and the roster

Considering that we have a little over $45,000,000.00 tied up in the following players next season:

Gomez
Cammalleri
Gionta
Kostitsyn
Moen
Laraque
Pacioretty
Markov
Hamrlik
Spacek
Gill
Gorges
O'Byrne


My questions are:

1) What is the cap projected to be next season?
2) What will our potential roster look like?


This is what I would like to see:

1) Trade Halak, Hamrlik and Lapierre for Jean-Francois Jacques and Souray
2) Re-sign Plekanec for 5 years
3) Buy out Laraque and Gill's last season under contract
4) Re-sign Sergei Kostitsyn, Pouliot, Price, D'Agostini and Metropolit
5) Bring up the NHL ready players like Subban and Weber next season

Cammalleri - Plekanec - Kostitsyn
Pouliot - Gomez - Gionta
Pacioretty - Jacques - Kostitsyn
Stewart - Metropolit - Moen

Markov - Souray
Gorges - Subban
O'Byrne - Weber

Price
Sanford


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Cammalleri (6.00) - Plekanec (5.50) - A.Kostitsyn (3.25)
Pouliot (1.50) - Gomez (7.36) - Gionta (5.00)
Pacioretty (0.875) - Lapierre (1.0) - S.Kostitsyn (1.0)
Pyatt (0.850) - White (0.750) - Moen (1.5)
Total O: 35.88M

Markov (5.75) - Gorges (1.10)
Hamrlik (5.50) - Spacek (3.82)
Gill (2.20) - O'Byrne (0.94)
Total D: 19.37

Price or Halak (3.00)
Desjardins (0.600)

Total : 57.450

I'm busting the cap, I know, but Gainey will have the entire summer to shave off that 1 million. And Sergei, Lapierre and Pouliot would have to accept 1-2 years contracts with marginal raises to make it there too. Obviously we'd have to get rid of Spacek, Hamrlik or Gill, but that won't be easy.

This is the list of the defensemen going UFA this summer : Lidstrom, Niedermayer, Gonchar, Kubina, Johnsson, Martin, Blake, Clark, Mitchell, Rathje, Zidlicky, Morris, Salei, Foote, Sutton, Van Ryn, Lydman, Jones, Schneider, Corvo, Smith, Tallinder, Pothier, Volchenko, Ward, Aucoin, Seidenberg, Eaton, Hamhuis, Morrisonn, Leopold, Wallin, Mara, Boyton, Krajicek, Ference, Exelby, Jurcina, Colaiacovo, Lilja, Michalek, O'Donnell, Frogren, Sydor, Paetsch, McKee, Weaver, Mottau, Bergeron, Bouillon and then about 15 borderline NHLers.

So, you get the idea. It's impossible to say at the moment if and how we can trade aging vets on the blueline. I'd love see Spacek moved but it's hard to guess what's going to happen.

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Cammalleri (6.00) - Plekanec (5.50) - A.Kostitsyn (3.25)
Pouliot (1.50) - Gomez (7.36) - Gionta (5.00)
Pacioretty (0.875) - Lapierre (1.0) - S.Kostitsyn (1.0)
Pyatt (0.850) - White (0.750) - Moen (1.5)
Total O: 35.88M

Markov (5.75) - Gorges (1.10)
Hamrlik (5.50) - Spacek (3.82)
Gill (2.20) - O'Byrne (0.94)
Total D: 19.37

Price or Halak (3.00)
Desjardins (0.600)

Total : 57.450

I'm busting the cap, I know, but Gainey will have the entire summer to shave off that 1 million. And Sergei, Lapierre and Pouliot would have to accept 1-2 years contracts with marginal raises to make it there too. Obviously we'd have to get rid of Spacek, Hamrlik or Gill, but that won't be easy.

This is the list of the defensemen going UFA this summer : Lidstrom, Niedermayer, Gonchar, Kubina, Johnsson, Martin, Blake, Clark, Mitchell, Rathje, Zidlicky, Morris, Salei, Foote, Sutton, Van Ryn, Lydman, Jones, Schneider, Corvo, Smith, Tallinder, Pothier, Volchenko, Ward, Aucoin, Seidenberg, Eaton, Hamhuis, Morrisonn, Leopold, Wallin, Mara, Boyton, Krajicek, Ference, Exelby, Jurcina, Colaiacovo, Lilja, Michalek, O'Donnell, Frogren, Sydor, Paetsch, McKee, Weaver, Mottau, Bergeron, Bouillon and then about 15 borderline NHLers.

So, you get the idea. It's impossible to say at the moment if and how we can trade aging vets on the blueline. I'd love see Spacek moved but it's hard to guess what's going to happen.
I really want to move spacek at the deadline.

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1) Trade Halak, Hamrlik and Lapierre for Jean-Francois Jacques and Souray
2) Re-sign Plekanec for 5 years
3) Buy out Laraque and Gill's last season under contract
4) Re-sign Sergei Kostitsyn, Pouliot, Price, D'Agostini and Metropolit
5) Bring up the NHL ready players like Subban and Weber next season
I want to do all this because I want Souray back, this guy is ALL heart and soul and he is perfect to be the next captain of the team, besides, he is available right now and Edmonton is trying to deal him.

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I want to do all this because I want Souray back, this guy is ALL heart and soul and he is perfect to be the next captain of the team, besides, he is available right now and Edmonton is trying to deal him.
why bust our cap for an injury-prone Souray???

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I would rather like to keep hammer and see if he can play 1 or two seasons more beyond his present contract, and see if we could get him on the cheap side. If he can stay close to his present effectiveness for 2-3 seasons on a lower cap hit, we will have all the necessary space to keep the entire core intact. As for the coming summer, it won't be as hard as all the alarmists think to keep the team's core intact.

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LOL at whoever wants souray. Im sure he is all heart and soul, but why did we bring in Gionta, Cammo, Gill?? Wasnt that because of the heart and sould x factor?
We already have one of, if not, the slowest back end in hockey, and you wanna bring him back. Ridiculous.

What the habs need and have needed for about 15 years is size and toughness on the first 2 lines.

The smartest thing they can do is trade Plekanec and Halak + prospect for a young big center down the middle (ala carter type). Plekanec is in no way shape or form a 5 mil player, but we will have to pay him that, or even more.
This team can not go 5 years with Gomez-Plekanec at center. and Gomez is essentially unmovable. Too small, too weak, not good enough of faceoffs.
I like Plekanec and wish he could stay long term as a 2nd center, but that was washed away with the Gomez trade.

What needs to happen first is, letting go of Gainey, and have someone with some creativity come in, and finally address this team`s weaknesses. Its been on repeat for 6 years.

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01-08-2010, 08:11 AM
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No thank you for Souray.You wanna bring up guys like Weber and Subban then what is the point in trading for Souray if we wanna see Subban and Markov qb the pp

Also the only problem I have with the buyout is that it will affect the cap for 2 years instead of Laraque and Gill just playing their final year.

The player I would try to move is Spacek if anyone out there wants him,2 more years left and we have some good young players that are waiting for their chance to come up and make an impact


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01-08-2010, 08:16 AM
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I want to do all this because I want Souray back, this guy is ALL heart and soul and he is perfect to be the next captain of the team, besides, he is available right now and Edmonton is trying to deal him.
Sourays salary, injuries and defensive liabilities can stay in Edmonton or find a home in 28 other NHL cities outside of Montreal.

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01-08-2010, 08:24 AM
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I would rather like to keep hammer and see if he can play 1 or two seasons more beyond his present contract, and see if we could get him on the cheap side. If he can stay close to his present effectiveness for 2-3 seasons on a lower cap hit, we will have all the necessary space to keep the entire core intact. As for the coming summer, it won't be as hard as all the alarmists think to keep the team's core intact.
Totally agree and Hammer is much better than Souray overall. I like Souray's strengths, but too injury prone and way too expensive.

We are a much better team with Hammer than with Souray, no doubt there.

...we need too make some major trade during the off-season. We need to get a lot bigger and hopefully land a star offensive player. This team, right now, won't get us anywhere.

We need to do everything we can to trade Spacek and Gomez and getting bigger doing it.

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01-08-2010, 08:27 AM
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Sourays salary, injuries and defensive liabilities can stay in Edmonton or find a home in 28 other NHL cities outside of Montreal.
no no, you dont get it, its heart and soul. The same heart and soul that made him leave montreal for edmonton for 500K more a year. But hey he did go after Colby Armstrong when he hit Koivu. Defensive liabilities? Slow? Bad penalties? injury prone? These things not matter when you have heart and soul!!

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01-08-2010, 08:53 AM
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In order to shed some salary would it be possible to send say a gomez or spacek to a team that has plenty of room under the cap and send cash with to cover the expense. For example to NYI or Phoenix, teams that operate well under the cap, we send gomez + 3million $ x 4 ( 12 millions) , to cover part of his salary for the remainder of his contract in return for player ABC.
This would be a great way to make room under the salary cap for players that are well their worth, but only rich teams like the habs could do it.
Is that allowed by the nhl rules/cba?
If so Bob needs to shed some salary for next year, pronto!

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Get rid of Hammer for Souray?
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Your defense is awful .. 2 rookies and O'Byrne who hasn't proved himself yet.

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