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01-11-2010, 08:11 AM
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Playoff Format

Is it possible for the Q to have a logical playoff format?

Right now the playoffs look like this: (#) is league standings


(7) Rouyn-Noranda 1 vs 4 Val D'or (14)

(10) Gatineau 2 vs 3 Montreal (12)


(2) Drummondville 1 vs 4 Lewiston (16)

(3) Victoriaville 2 vs 3 Shawinigan (11)


(5) Quebec 1 vs 4 Acadie-Bathurst (15) (takes over Baie-Comeau's spot due to standings)

(8) Rimouski 2 vs 3 Chicoutimi (13)


(1) Saint John 1 vs 4 PEI (9)

(4) Moncton 2 vs 3 Cape Breton (6)


Baie Comeau and Halifax miss the playoffs


That makes a lot of sense in the Atlantic Division, have 2 of the top 9 teams eliminated from round 1.

So assume the top team wins their playoff series Round 2 looks like this

(1) Saint John 1 vs 8 Gatineau (10)
(2) Drummondville 2 vs 7 Rimouski (8)
(3) Victoriaville 3 vs 6 Rouyn-Noranda (7)
(4) Moncton 4 vs 5 Quebec (5)


Now assume they go with what would be the most logical format right now (1st plays 16th, 2nd vs 15th and so on) (division winners ranked 1,2,3,4)

1 Saint John vs Lewiston 16
2 Drummondville vs Acadie-Bathurst 15
3 Quebec vs Val d'Or 14
4 Rouyn-Noranda vs Chicoutimi 13
5 Victoriaville vs Montreal 12
6 Moncton vs Shawinigan 11
7 Cape Breton vs Gatineau 10
8 Rimouski vs PEI 9

Lower ranked get eliminated and round 2 looks like

1 Saint John vs Rimouski 8
2 Drummondville vs Cape Breton 7
3 Quebec vs Moncton 6
4 Rouyn-Noranda vs Victoriaville 5

I think that this is much more fair of a format for everyone, division matchups can have a 2-2-1-1-1 format and out of division series can be a 2-3-2 series.

I'm not a fan of the whole cross over in the Atlantic division and 2 of the top 9 teams guaranteed to be eliminated in round 1

Thoughts?

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They're supposed to talk about the subject this summer and they'll probably change it.

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That's good. One format that wouldn't be too bad would be to take the 3 closest Quebec based teams and move them to the Atlantic Division. I think that would make the divisions

Atlantic
1 Acadie-Bathurst
2 Cape Breton
3 Drummondville?
4 Halifax
5 Lewiston
6 Moncton
7 PEI
8 Rimouski
9 Saint John

Quebec/Telus
1 Baie-Comeau
2 Chicoutimi
3 Gatineau
4 Montreal
5 Quebec
6 Rouyn-Noranda
7 Shawinigan
8 Val D'or
9 Victoriaville

There you have 2 divisions and you have it go 1/8 2/7 3/6 4/5 first round and then in the end you have an Atlantic vs Quebec/Telus final. Both Divisions have a fair shot at the cup and top teams only get put out in round 1 from an upset

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Quebec is closer to the Atlantic than Drummondville.

Why not 3 divisions? Each division would have 6 teams.

West: Val D'Or, Rouyn-Noranda, Gatineau, Montreal, Drummondville, Victoriaville

East: Shawinigan, Lewiston, Quebec, Chicoutimi, Rimouski, Baie-Comeau

Atlantic: Moncton, Saint John, Bathurst, PEI, Cape Breton, Halifax

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That's good. One format that wouldn't be too bad would be to take the 3 closest Quebec based teams and move them to the Atlantic Division. I think that would make the divisions

Atlantic
1 Acadie-Bathurst
2 Cape Breton
3 Drummondville?
4 Halifax
5 Lewiston
6 Moncton
7 PEI
8 Rimouski
9 Saint John

Quebec/Telus
1 Baie-Comeau
2 Chicoutimi
3 Gatineau
4 Montreal
5 Quebec
6 Rouyn-Noranda
7 Shawinigan
8 Val D'or
9 Victoriaville

There you have 2 divisions and you have it go 1/8 2/7 3/6 4/5 first round and then in the end you have an Atlantic vs Quebec/Telus final. Both Divisions have a fair shot at the cup and top teams only get put out in round 1 from an upset
Quebec is more east than Drummondville is, but I see your point.
I think this would be a lot easier for playoff format, back to how they had it a few years ago.

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01-11-2010, 02:41 PM
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Is it possible for the Q to have a logical playoff format?

Right now the playoffs look like this: (#) is league standings


(7) Rouyn-Noranda 1 vs 4 Val D'or (14)

(10) Gatineau 2 vs 3 Montreal (12)


(2) Drummondville 1 vs 4 Lewiston (16)

(3) Victoriaville 2 vs 3 Shawinigan (11)


(5) Quebec 1 vs 4 Acadie-Bathurst (15) (takes over Baie-Comeau's spot due to standings)

(8) Rimouski 2 vs 3 Chicoutimi (13)


(1) Saint John 1 vs 4 PEI (9)

(4) Moncton 2 vs 3 Cape Breton (6)


Baie Comeau and Halifax miss the playoffs


That makes a lot of sense in the Atlantic Division, have 2 of the top 9 teams eliminated from round 1.

So assume the top team wins their playoff series Round 2 looks like this

(1) Saint John 1 vs 8 Gatineau (10)
(2) Drummondville 2 vs 7 Rimouski (8)
(3) Victoriaville 3 vs 6 Rouyn-Noranda (7)
(4) Moncton 4 vs 5 Quebec (5)


Now assume they go with what would be the most logical format right now (1st plays 16th, 2nd vs 15th and so on) (division winners ranked 1,2,3,4)

1 Saint John vs Lewiston 16
2 Drummondville vs Acadie-Bathurst 15
3 Quebec vs Val d'Or 14
4 Rouyn-Noranda vs Chicoutimi 13
5 Victoriaville vs Montreal 12
6 Moncton vs Shawinigan 11
7 Cape Breton vs Gatineau 10
8 Rimouski vs PEI 9

Lower ranked get eliminated and round 2 looks like

1 Saint John vs Rimouski 8
2 Drummondville vs Cape Breton 7
3 Quebec vs Moncton 6
4 Rouyn-Noranda vs Victoriaville 5

I think that this is much more fair of a format for everyone, division matchups can have a 2-2-1-1-1 format and out of division series can be a 2-3-2 series.

I'm not a fan of the whole cross over in the Atlantic division and 2 of the top 9 teams guaranteed to be eliminated in round 1

Thoughts?
Its called DUMB DUMBS running things,lol,,

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For the Drummondville thing I just picked a team and moved them to the Atlantic division.

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Is it possible for the Q to have a logical playoff format?

Right now the playoffs look like this: (#) is league standings


(7) Rouyn-Noranda 1 vs 4 Val D'or (14)

(10) Gatineau 2 vs 3 Montreal (12)


(2) Drummondville 1 vs 4 Lewiston (16)

(3) Victoriaville 2 vs 3 Shawinigan (11)


(5) Quebec 1 vs 4 Acadie-Bathurst (15) (takes over Baie-Comeau's spot due to standings)

(8) Rimouski 2 vs 3 Chicoutimi (13)


(1) Saint John 1 vs 4 PEI (9)

(4) Moncton 2 vs 3 Cape Breton (6)


Baie Comeau and Halifax miss the playoffs


That makes a lot of sense in the Atlantic Division, have 2 of the top 9 teams eliminated from round 1.

So assume the top team wins their playoff series Round 2 looks like this

(1) Saint John 1 vs 8 Gatineau (10)
(2) Drummondville 2 vs 7 Rimouski (8)
(3) Victoriaville 3 vs 6 Rouyn-Noranda (7)
(4) Moncton 4 vs 5 Quebec (5)


Now assume they go with what would be the most logical format right now (1st plays 16th, 2nd vs 15th and so on) (division winners ranked 1,2,3,4)

1 Saint John vs Lewiston 16
2 Drummondville vs Acadie-Bathurst 15
3 Quebec vs Val d'Or 14
4 Rouyn-Noranda vs Chicoutimi 13
5 Victoriaville vs Montreal 12
6 Moncton vs Shawinigan 11
7 Cape Breton vs Gatineau 10
8 Rimouski vs PEI 9

Lower ranked get eliminated and round 2 looks like

1 Saint John vs Rimouski 8
2 Drummondville vs Cape Breton 7
3 Quebec vs Moncton 6
4 Rouyn-Noranda vs Victoriaville 5

I think that this is much more fair of a format for everyone, division matchups can have a 2-2-1-1-1 format and out of division series can be a 2-3-2 series.

I'm not a fan of the whole cross over in the Atlantic division and 2 of the top 9 teams guaranteed to be eliminated in round 1

Thoughts?
From your round 2 scenario, the only difference would be that Cape Breton is in and Gatineau is out. Also you have Cape Breton playing Gatineau in the first round of your revamped playoff format. In theory, Gatineau could win, placing the original playoff format valid. In practice, I find it difficult to believe they could, although stranger things have been known to happen.

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Yeah that was just going with the assumption that the top teams won

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That's good. One format that wouldn't be too bad would be to take the 3 closest Quebec based teams and move them to the Atlantic Division. I think that would make the divisions

Atlantic
1 Acadie-Bathurst
2 Cape Breton
3 Halifax
4 Lewiston
5 Moncton
6 PEI
7 Quebec
8 Rimouski
9 Saint John

Quebec/Telus
1 Baie-Comeau
2 Chicoutimi
3 Drummondville
4 Gatineau
5 Montreal
6 Rouyn-Noranda
7 Shawinigan
8 Val D'or
9 Victoriaville

There you have 2 divisions and you have it go 1/8 2/7 3/6 4/5 first round and then in the end you have an Atlantic vs Quebec/Telus final. Both Divisions have a fair shot at the cup and top teams only get put out in round 1 from an upset
Ok I put Quebec in the Atlantic rather than Drummondville.

Now this format the bottom teams are eliminated.
(#)=League Standings

Atlantic Round 1

(1) Saint John 1 vs 8 Lewiston (16)
(4) Moncton 2 vs 7 Acadie-Bathurst (15)
(5) Quebec 3 vs 6 PEI (9)
(6) Cape Breton 4 vs 5 Rimouski (8)
(18) Halifax Eliminated


Telus/Quebec Round 1

(2) Drummondville 1 vs 8 Val D'or (14)
(3) Victoriaville 2 vs 7 Chicoutimi (13)
(7) Rouyn-Noranda 3 vs 6 Montreal (12)
(10) Gatineau 4 vs 5 Shawinigan (11)
(17) Baie-Comeau Eliminated


I have noticed a slight problem though. Look at the 4vs5 series in both divisions/conferences. In the Atlantic that means that this year either the 6th or 8th ranked team is gone. Although that is not much different to this year though if PEI finishes strong you could see 7th play 8th. I guess though like in the NHL it can come down to luck. That will happen in any format that doesn't involve a 1/16 2/15 and so on

And there would be no crossover, doesn't matter if Baie-Comeau finished with 50 points and Halifax and Bathurst were below 30 points. No crossover


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they better changed it because like this year in the atlantic division the east division the next 2 years will be really strong (rimouski,quebec,chicoutimi,baie-comeau) are all expect to be top team in the league and 2 of them will get eliminated in the 1st rd because they have to face each other (1vs4 2vs3)

i can see why they dont want to have 1vs16 ect because if your unlucky you get cape-breton vs val dor in the 1st rd he doesnt make sense with the travel

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Money. It costs a lot of it for a Quebec team to travel into Atlantic Canada for a series.

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For the long distance series you would have a 2-3-2 series. Although regardless I think the finals should be 2-2-1-1-1 since it's the fairest series

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