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01-16-2010, 11:56 PM
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I like JJ but I wouldn't be upset if he was traded and the return was fair value.

So for fun, What's fair value for JJ from OTT? Nhl Sourses Say is reporting Neil being part of the package, Not a bad starting point from OTT.
Eklund: Another big rumor among many insiders and scouts today is that the Penguins may move Max Talbot to the Los Angeles Kings for Sidney Crosby's friend Jack Johnson and a strong prospect (e2). The Pens are up against it right now as they need to sign Gonchar.

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01-16-2010, 11:59 PM
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Eklund: Another big rumor among many insiders and scouts today is that the Penguins may move Max Talbot to the Los Angeles Kings for Sidney Crosby's friend Jack Johnson and a strong prospect (e2). The Pens are up against it right now as they need to sign Gonchar.
ha ha

That would piss me off.

Eklund should just take his life and make the internet a safe place.

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01-17-2010, 12:43 AM
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Eklund: Another big rumor among many insiders and scouts today is that the Penguins may move Max Talbot to the Los Angeles Kings for Sidney Crosby's friend Jack Johnson and a strong prospect (e2). The Pens are up against it right now as they need to sign Gonchar.
I think i might lose it if this happened.

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01-17-2010, 01:05 AM
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That has to be one of the worst trade "rumors" I have ever heard.

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01-17-2010, 01:21 AM
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Jack AND a strong prospect...for Talbot?

yea. That will happen.

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01-17-2010, 01:22 AM
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ha ha

That would piss me off.

Eklund should just take his life and make the internet a safe place.
Maybe the "strong prospect" is Staal.

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01-17-2010, 01:26 AM
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Maybe the "strong prospect" is Staal.
Maybe they'll throw in a former first rounder named, I don't know, Crosby.

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Maybe they'll throw in a former first rounder named, I don't know, Crosby.
Just wondering why he is referred to as a former first rounder.

Is Luc a former Hall of Famer?

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01-17-2010, 01:32 AM
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Just wondering why he is referred to as a former first rounder.

Is Luc a former Hall of Famer?
Dunno. Good question. That is what the media typically calls them though.

He is not a current first rounder, right? Or is that right?
He is not a future first rounder.
That leaves...

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01-17-2010, 01:36 AM
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Dunno. Good question. That is what the media typically calls them though.

He is not a current first rounder, right? Or is that right?
He is not a future first rounder.
That leaves...
I guess so. So since he's not in the most recent draft, they call him a former first rounder.

Kinda like a former gold medalist, or former President. I just think that once a first rounder, always a first rounder.

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01-17-2010, 02:52 AM
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I guess jj is staying with us, Ecklund kinda confirmrd that as he is never right these days.

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01-17-2010, 12:39 PM
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Terry Murray hinting at what the Kings need...?
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/spor...ry-murray.html

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"Crosby [made an] unbelievable play, breaking through the two defensemen, holding on and making the difference in the game," Murray said.

"I’d like to think that we can get a guy like that some day. Maybe Kopi [Anze Kopitar] can break through and be that player someday but right now we don’t have it. So we need to attack as five and we need to defend as five. And anytime we stray from that it becomes a concern."

When Murray said he liked to think the Kings can get a game-breaker, was he referring to Atlanta winger Ilya Kovalchuk? He has become a trade target for the Kings -- and probably a half-dozen other teams -- because the Thrashers haven't been able to re-sign him and don't want to lose him as a free agent with no return.

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01-17-2010, 12:47 PM
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Well, with the earlier than expected return of both Greene and Drewiske with the emergence of Harrold (that leaves us with 9 dmen), it makes some sense that one of our dmen gets moved. I truly hope it's not Johnson though.

What we need to do is move quantity for quality.

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01-17-2010, 01:01 PM
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Kovalchuk in LA makes too much sense. Still not going to happen.

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01-17-2010, 02:29 PM
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Well, if he doesn't get re-signed, he has to go somewhere... Who knows how it is going to turn out, but I wouldn't could us out of the running. All this teasing sucks though because Sydor25 is right... It makes too much sense.

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01-17-2010, 03:21 PM
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When I heard about Lombardi offering Hossa that 10 year huge deal last season, I knew he had the balls to bring in a superstar. I believe that superstar was Kovalchuk all along, but Lombardi wasn't sure whether he was staying in ATL or not.

Lombardi will make a massive push for Kovalchuk. Perhaps not at the deadline, because I still don't think we're in the position to move important farm pieces, but in free agency.

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01-17-2010, 03:31 PM
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When I heard about Lombardi offering Hossa that 10 year huge deal last season, I knew he had the balls to bring in a superstar. I believe that superstar was Kovalchuk all along, but Lombardi wasn't sure whether he was staying in ATL or not.

Lombardi will make a massive push for Kovalchuk. Perhaps not at the deadline, because I still don't think we're in the position to move important farm pieces, but in free agency.
Pretty much. The major deal to Hossa, even the three year deal to Gaborik shows that he is looking for a game breaker. I trust Dean to do everything he can to get Kovalchuk. I am sure though he was hoping the Kings could maintain their first place glory for a little longer though to help him out in doing it.

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Obviously we went into this for wingers. Like I've said, it's one of the positives of being in our situation now, as opposed to three years ago, when we were looking for everything and signing seven guys. The No. 1 guy we targeted was Hossa. I got permission to talk to Hossa at the draft. There were three teams, us and two others. Detroit gave me permission, and we started the dialogue at that time. Detroit, if he got signed, they would get compensation. We met with his agent there, at that time, and he was interested in L.A. He said he thinks we could be the next Chicago. But he said, `That's down the road,' and that's fair, that's realistic. He said it was important to go to a 100-point team. I said, `I don't know if we can guarantee that, but you're the type of player we're prepared to commit to.' He was the one player we thought was a top player. I don't know that he's a `mail carrier' type guy, but he's still a top player.

That dialogue continued until July 1. He was throwing (contract) numbers out there, but it was very vague in terms of numbers. We talked again last night and I got the sense that this was probably going in a different direction. I said, `What would it take?' but we never really got an answer. I think he had his eye on something else already. We thought it was Boston. He told us this morning that it was probably unlikely that he would come here. It wasn't really the 12-year term that got us out of it. It never got to that point. Part of this is that you're frustrated, but the other part is that you want guys like that. I've always said you want guys who want to win first. And you look at Chicago, where they've come in the last seven drafts and where they're at. Chicago, it took six years; we're three years in. That's the process they went through, and then they broke through. We're hoping that if we break through like they did, we can compete (for players) at that level. We were prepared to talk about the cash and the 12 years.

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Where is it documented that Lombardi was willing to offer Hossa a 10-year deal? All I recall reading was that there was interest but Hossa wanted to go to a team that was close to Cup contention.

Thanks for providing the quote Telos. So Lombardi didn't necessarily offer a multi-year deal to Hossa, as talks never escalated to those details. If Kovalchuk was willing to sign a deal similar to Hossa's, I'm sure Lombardi would be all over that offer. But I'd say he'd get a higher average cap hit, seeing how he's still 26 and will likely provide another 6-7 seasons of high production.

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HOT RUMOR: Kings and Thrashers are discussing Kovalchuk...Kings GM Dean Lombardi is looking to make a move...stay tuned....
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Thrashers are asking the LA Kings for Dustin Brown, Jack Johnson and a 1st round pick for Kovalchuk, more players could be involved

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I don't buy it nor do I believe in any twitter postings unless it is from Darren Dreger or Bob McKenzie (or another reputable hockey reporter, not those anonymous Johnny Come Latlies who post on twitter). Observe his previous posts, it's all BS.

Lombardi isn't going to trade Dustin Brown, not for the contract he is signed for and especially when he showed loyalty to the team for signing for less than market value.

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01-17-2010, 03:46 PM
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I don't buy it nor do I believe in any twitter postings unless it is from Darren Dreger or Bob McKenzie (or another reputable hockey reporter, not those anonymous Johnny Come Latlies who post on twitter). Observe his previous posts, it's all BS.

Lombardi isn't going to trade Dustin Brown, not for the contract he is signed for and especially when he showed loyalty to the team for signing for less than market value.
I know it is bs this is a "Hockeybuzz" rumors thread. As far as I am concerned, any dart thrown at a board is more accurate than a Hockeybuzz rumor.

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01-17-2010, 03:51 PM
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Well, with the earlier than expected return of both Greene and Drewiske with the emergence of Harrold (that leaves us with 9 dmen), it makes some sense that one of our dmen gets moved. I truly hope it's not Johnson though.

What we need to do is move quantity for quality.
The emergence of Harrold as what?

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Wow, would you guys do this deal. Brown, Johnson, and a 1st for Kovalchuk! I hate giving up Johnson, but dang I"ll do that deal in a heartbeat!

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The two latest on the Kings from that site:

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According to multiple sources, the Los Angeles Kings are aggressively pursuing Ilya Kovalchuk from the Atlanta Thrashers.

That is the player they are eying, stay tuned...No deal is imminent, but the Kings are looking to make an impact move. But it is not going to be a rental, it has to fit into their long-term plans as well. If there is a deal on the table the Kings will also probably want a 48 to 72 hour window to negotiate a contract extension.
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I am told the Los Angeles Kings are pushing hard for Kovalchuk. The Kings feel comfortable that they have the resources to consummate a deal but are still hesitant on pulling the trigger because Lombardi does not want to give up top prospects and picks for a rental player. If the Kings cannot acquire Kovalchuk, look for them to turn their attention towards Patrick Sharp or Ray Whitney. I am also told the Blackhawks are still players for Kovalchuk but the Bruins are out.

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Wow, would you guys do this deal. Brown, Johnson, and a 1st for Kovalchuk! I hate giving up Johnson, but dang I"ll do that deal in a heartbeat!
For a UFA? No way in hell. Value is pretty close though.

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