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01-21-2010, 03:07 PM
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He jumped off the bench on a change.
He lined up to the guy carrying the puck. Nothing so far.
He missed, and throw out an elbow. Damn, that's a 2 minute penalty, that sucks.
Tam hits the ice. Hard. THAT impact is the more dangerous one. Uh oh...

Now the entire internet hockey community is calling for Cormiers head? If Tam didn't hit the ice as hard, or got his hands up to block his head coming down on the ice, this is a 2 minute penalty and a non issue. What the hell is your problem aruing all sorts of opinion as fact and then having the tenacity to call US biased?

The bolded parts are complete speculation. You have no idea, like everyone else other than Cormier himself, what he was thinking jumping off the bench. We also have no idea at which point Tam sustained the brunt of the injury, with the initial impact or impact with the ice.

It would be prudent for everyone to hold their opinions until more information comes out. Cormier is eventually going to have to make a statement, and I'm sure Tam will say something eventually as well.

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01-21-2010, 03:10 PM
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People are going to flip the **** out when he only gets like a 15 game suspension max.

And nobody can say he intended it to happen that way, because only he knows his intent. You act like he tapped his elbow twice like a Macho Man elbow drop before hitting the kid.

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Cormier needs to be hung at the hockey hall of fame to show the world this will not be tolerated!

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The bolded parts are complete speculation. You have no idea, like everyone else other than Cormier himself, what he was thinking jumping off the bench. We also have no idea at which point Tam sustained the brunt of the injury, with the initial impact or impact with the ice.

It would be prudent for everyone to hold their opinions until more information comes out. Cormier is eventually going to have to make a statement, and I'm sure Tam will say something eventually as well.
Which is exactly why most of the posts from non-Devils fans who come in and act like they're so offended by this act are childish. "This is premeditated and patrice tried to kill him!!!"

No. No one knows what was going on in his mind so quit acting like it. Every post I've seen from Devils fans on here is saying that we shouldn't be assuming one or the other. Claiming intent means that you've talked to patrice since the incident and know what he was thinking....I think it'd be safe to say no one on this board has.

What we have here is a bunch of teenagers acting like they are qualified to call him a psychopath after this.

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People are going to flip the **** out when he only gets like a 15 game suspension max.

And nobody can say he intended it to happen that way, because only he knows his intent. You act like he tapped his elbow twice like a Macho Man elbow drop before hitting the kid.
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BTW Cowbell, this should just be locked up, nothing good from outside posters will come of this.

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He doesn't understand cause and effect obviously. The underlying cause is the basis for criminal charges. The effect is the basis for punitive damages and civil charges.

Imagine the world if things were only punished based on the outcome like he wants... No worries about driving drunk - so long as you don't wreck or kill someone.

Hey Slee - so when you slide off the road and hit a parked car - do you get ticketed for driving in the rain? If you shoot someone breaking into your home do you get charged with murder? You really gotta learn the ways of the world before you step up on the soapbox of justice and demand action based on hearsay and speculation.

Pissing off other players, not showing instant sorrow or remorse, or moreover arguing with a ref because you didn't intend to do something does not equate to intent no matter how badly you want it to based on someone else's opinion on the situation.

Go watch whale wars and get angry over something else.
Of course the effect of an action has an influence on criminal charges. If you get caught drunk driving, you get your license suspended. If you get into a car accident and kill someone while drunk driving, you go to jail for vehicular manslaughter.

No matter the intent, if Cormier's elbow simply knocked Tam down and he got right back up... nothing more than a 2 minute penalty. The fact that he went into convulsions on the ice and stopped breathing has a lot to do with people's reactions. It's a shame because unless Cormier is really out of his ****ing mind, I really don't think he wanted to hurt Tam. He wanted to lay him out. Big hits are part of the game. Unfortunately the result of his actions had dire consequences, and that is why we are still discussing it right now.

Should he go to jail? I don't think so. Hockey is an impact sport. Unless it was proven that his intention was to hurt Tam, nothing more than suspension/fines should be instituted.

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This thread is locked.

A new one will be started when a judgement is handed down, and everyone will follow the rules and not rehash the same thing 100 times.

Or what CD says below...

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