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01-25-2010, 06:10 PM
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Trade Deadline 2010 Discussion/Proposal Thread

One of the most exciting times of the year for hardcore hockey fans (along with the draft and July 1st). I don't know about you guys, but I've had a "sick" day from work/school for about 9 years running now on deadline day.

Any guesses as to which players will be moved? Number of deals?

Each year people say that it'll be a slow day, and then there ends up being 20+ deals. I can't really see it being any different this year. Maybe there won't be many "big" deals, but plenty on minor ones at the very least. There are sometimes waiver pickups and soon to be UFA's locked up on deadline day as well.

Who gets Kovalchuk as a rental?

What happens if we're out of a playoff spot? Do we offer a guy like Hamrlik for a prospect and a 2nd round pick? What about Mara? What if we're battling for a position and we sit somewhere in the 7-9 spot? Does Bob take a chance and trade for a rental that can give us a boost?

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Who gets Kovalchuk as a rental?

What happens if we're out of a playoff spot? Do we offer a guy like Hamrlik for a prospect and a 2nd round pick? What about Mara? What if we're battling for a position and we sit somewhere in the 7-9 spot? Does Bob take a chance and trade for a rental that can give us a boost?
I'm betting nobody does, Waddel fails and Kovalchuck heads back to Russia next season.

Why would anyone be interested in Mara? Plus isn't there a unwritten rule that states you don't trade a player you just signed? ( Even if it's a 1 year deal )

I could definitely Mr. Gainey take a chance on a rental, specially with the kind of cannon fodder we can send the other way. ( D'Ago, SK, MaxPac, Price, Halak, etc... ) We aren't exactly short on players that aren't untouchable.

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Brenden Morrow. If there is ANY way to get him out of Dallas, we need to do it.

Otherwise, Ryan Clowe.

We need a big, strong winger that hits and can score. We haven't had one of this ilk since Corson back in 1997, and that was a one year resurgence.

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Brenden Morrow. If there is ANY way to get him out of Dallas, we need to do it.

Otherwise, Ryan Clowe.

We need a big, strong winger that hits and can score. We haven't had one of this ilk since Corson back in 1997, and that was a one year resurgence.
I'd love to add either Clowe or Morrow. I just don't think either would be available. I do think we have a shot at Raffi Torres though.

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if dallas moves Morrow he should be the top priority for us hes exactly what we missing i wouldnt mind getting Steve Ott and im prett sure he will get traded dont think he will cost THAT much i think we can get him for carle and like 5th

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I'd love to add either Clowe or Morrow. I just don't think either would be available. I do think we have a shot at Raffi Torres though.
At the start of the season, Clowe was availabe for a 3rd and an ok prospect.

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if dallas moves Morrow he should be the top priority for us hes exactly what we missing i wouldnt mind getting Steve Ott and im prett sure he will get traded dont think he will cost THAT much i think we can get him for carle and like 5th

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Brenden Morrow. If there is ANY way to get him out of Dallas, we need to do it.

Otherwise, Ryan Clowe.

We need a big, strong winger that hits and can score. We haven't had one of this ilk since Corson back in 1997, and that was a one year resurgence.
Dustin Byfuglien should be available for not TOO steep a price since Chicago has to shed some salary among its non-essential players.

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never does.
Not sure about that for this time, though. Bob seems to have opened space on the bottom two lines for new blood. Maxwell isn't really meant for that role, though he will get a look now to see if there is any way he can replace Pleks if the latter decides not to stay.

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Why not? He's a **** disturber and can actually play hockey.

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Why not? He's a **** disturber and can actually play hockey.
this team isnt built for a chitdisturber....seriously


having Lappy yap off , everyones know he just a pest.

Ott Avery diffrent animals , you gota have a team to back up there mouths and actions when the water boils over.

we dont got the troops to go to that type of war and get into it every 3rd or 4th or 5th whistle


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Ott will add grit we need on the bottom 6 he played with Plekanec and Kostitsyn in hamilton in 2004-2005

Moen Ott Torres would be a great line to have in the playoffs

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trade for Artyukhin ,Mr Gainey
Do it.

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Do it.
i wish we could find an email or someone to deliver our message to Bob Gainey to acquire Evgeny Artyukhin



id buy the first jersey of the truck load they would sell.

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In any trade involving Halak, you guys must remember, he is our #1 and with Price, we are in contention for Taylor Hall and with Halak we are competing with NJD.

Numbers are quite clear, go look in the Price vs Halak debate:
Here and here
I'm pretty dam sure no one has mentioned any goalies take it elsewhere

And just when the debate was heating up in the other thread, it was closed before capacity and killed the discussion

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In any trade involving Halak, you guys must remember, he is our #1 and with Price, we are in contention for Taylor Hall and with Halak we are competing with NJD.

Numbers are quite clear, go look in the Price vs Halak debate:
Here and here
Watch Price get traded and become the dominant goalie elsewhere. And then watch Halak become another Huet or Toskala and we'll all be calling for his head. Then Cedrick Desjardins will be the next best thing and we'll run Halak out of town. Cedrick will then be the "next one".

Where were you when Price made 53 saves? When he was stealing games back in November and first two games in October? When he stole that road game in Boston and Washington? Where were you when Halak was getting lit up against Pittsburgh and was pulled? When Halak let in 6 goals against New York? When he let in 4+ goals in regulation even in his wins? When he got lit up vs. Buffalox2? EH?

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Watch Price get traded and become the dominant goalie elsewhere. And then watch Halak become another Huet or Toskala and we'll all be calling for his head. Then Cedrick Desjardins will be the next best thing and we'll run Halak out of town. Cedrick will then be the "next one".

Where were you when Price made 53 saves? When he was stealing games back in November and first two games in October? When was Halak was getting lit up against Pittsburgh and was pulled? When Halak let in 6 goals against New York? When he let in 4+ goals in regulation even in his wins? EH?
Ive said this multipule times,

If Price gets traded im OK with it
If Halak get traded IM ok with it .

If Price can fetch us this years number 1,2,3 draft pick i say GO FOR IT

It's all about the return

Yeah he might turn into a top goalie but we might also be drafting a lights out forward this year.

So 10 years from now we can say we traded Roy for Crosby jr then we can rest well..

NOW if it turns out Roy for fred smith then we feeeling pretty blue.

Its all about return.On the Habs id say no one except 4 guys should be untouchable.
everyone else at the right price .


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I'd love to get Ott and then re-sign him, not sure if he's available or what Dallas would want.

Another guy i'd love to get would be Ladd but since Chicago is a top contender I doubt they trade him so in the off-season i'd like to see Gainey try and get him as he's an RFA and will likely get a raise.

Pouliot - Gomez - Gionta
Cammalleri - Plekanec - A. Kostitsyn
Ladd - Ott - S. Kostitsyn
Moen - Lapierre - White

I'd love something like that.

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bob wont' trade price

and bob wont' get morrow

bob will get a 3rd liner,

bob can't pull the huge deal...

no gonads.

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In any trade involving Halak, you guys must remember, he is our #1 and with Price, we are in contention for Taylor Hall and with Halak we are competing with NJD.

Numbers are quite clear, go look in the Price vs Halak debate:
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Watch Price get traded and become the dominant goalie elsewhere. And then watch Halak become another Huet or Toskala and we'll all be calling for his head. Then Cedrick Desjardins will be the next best thing and we'll run Halak out of town. Cedrick will then be the "next one".

Where were you when Price made 53 saves? When he was stealing games back in November and first two games in October? When he stole that road game in Boston and Washington? Where were you when Halak was getting lit up against Pittsburgh and was pulled? When Halak let in 6 goals against New York? When he let in 4+ goals in regulation even in his wins? When he got lit up vs. Buffalox2? EH?
Argh stop. Both of you.

We should stay pat at trade deadline. Maybe divest some non core players like Mara, D'ago if he can't put it together in his next 2 weeks in hamilton for picks.

Like I said before, Gill got TOR a 2nd and a 5th. I hope to get a 3rd and hopefully a 5th or 4th for Mara. We need picks for this draft cuz we have 4 or 5 picks this year. (someone confirm?)

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At the start of the season, Clowe was availabe for a 3rd and an ok prospect.
Really? I would have loved to have a guy like Clowe especially given the injuries to our top 6. He can step up and play a top 6 role when people are injured or not playing well and play a 3rd line role at other times.

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The Trades:

To
1st Round Pick 2010
3rd Round Pick 2010
D Dan Hamhuis Pending UFA
LW Taylor Beck (Guelph Storm)
C Craig Smith (Univ. of Wisconsin)

To
G Carey Price 2.200 mil
D Paul Mara Pending UFA
RW Matt D'Agostini 0.500 RFA



To
C Jay McClement 1.450mil
6th Round Pick 2010

To
D Roman Hamrlik 5.500mil



To
D David Savard (Moncton Wildcats)

To
D Mathieu Carle 0.850 RFA



To
LW Ben Eager 0.975 RFA

To
3rd Round Pick 2011




Rest of the Season

Cammalleri-Plekanec-Kostitsyn
Pouliot-Gomez-Gionta
Moen-McClement-Kostitsyn
Eager-Lapierre-Darche
Metropolit

Markov-Hamhuis
Gill-Gorges
Spacek-O'Byrne

Halak
Desjardins/Sanford



The Draft:
MTL 1/15; LW Nino Niederreiter; Swiss; Portland WHL (6'2" 203lbs)
NSH 1/20; G Jack Campbell; American; USNTDP (6'2" 185lbs)
MTL 2/45; D Matt McKenzie; Canadian; Calgary WHL (6'1" 185lbs)
NSH 3/80; C Devante Smith-Pelly; Canadian; Mississauga OHL (5'11" 180lbs)
MTL 4/105; RW Felix Liljegren; Sweden; Swedish; Djurgarden (6'4" 225lbs)
MTL 5/135; C Calle Jarnkrok; Swedish; ByrnasSEL (5'11" 165lbs)
STL 6/156; D Jerome Gauthier-Leduc; Canadian; Rouyn-Noranda QMJHL (6'1" 172lbs)
MTL 7/195; D Alex Theriau; Canadian; Everett WHL(6'1" 185lbs)


The Signings:
C Tomas Plekanec; 5yr 4.5mil
D Dan Hamhuis; 4yr, 4.00mil
G Jaroslav Halak; 3yr 3.25mil
F Benoit Pouliot; 2yr, 2.5mil
W Colby Armstrong; 2yr, 2.00mil <---------- VIA Free Agency
W Sergei Kostitsyn; 2yr, 1.3mil
W Ben Eager; 1yr, 1.00mil
Pyatt, Stewart, Desharnais, Wyman all on two-ways

C Glen Metropolit; Gone
D Marc-Andre Bergeron; Gone
W Mathieu Darche; Gone
C Maxim Lapierre; Gone
D Alex Henry; Gone
G Curtis Sanford; Gone


2010-2011 Montreal Canadiens:
Mike Cammalleri / Tomas Plekanec / Andrei Kostitsyn
Benoit Pouliot / Scott Gomez / Brian Gionta
Sergei Kostitsyn / Benjamin Maxwell / Max Pacioretty
Travis Moen / Jay McClement / Colby Armstrong
XBen EagerX
XRyan WhiteX
-or-
Ryan White / Jay McClement / Colby Armstrong
Travis Moen / Benjamin Maxwell / Sergei Kostitsyn
XBen EagerX
XMax PaciorettyX

Andrei Markov / Dan Hamhuis
Josh Gorges / PK Subban
Hal Gill / Ryan O'Byrne
XJaroslav Spacek

Jaroslav Halak
Cedrick Desjardins

Noteworthy Prospects:
D Yannick Weber
C Louis Leblanc
RW Danny Kristo
G Jack Campbell
LW Nino Niederreiter
RW Alexander Avtsin
D David Savard
RW Steve Quailer
LW Taylor Beck
RW Maxim Trunev
C Craig Smith

GUY BOUCHER


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