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01-25-2010, 02:12 PM
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Pheneuf? Really? No thanks.

He's probably the most over rated D-man in the league and that's why he didn't make team canada.
Really? He didn't make team Canada because he was over rated, not because he wasn't good enough?

Sarcasm aside, "you couldn't make team Canada" isn't exactly a damning statement. I would say no thanks to Phaneuf because he makes $6.5 million a year. I don't know how the hell we make room for that with out getting rid of one of Pronger, Timonen, or Coburn + a top 6 forward.

I think Timonen is the better defenseman currently, but I don't think it's by as much as everyone here might suggest, and Kimmo is 35 (right?). Kimmo is a fantastic skater, and so much of what makes Kimmo good is based on his skating. I don't know how much longer he's gonna be able to play at the level of a #1 defenseman (and he is making roughly the amount that Phaneuf makes, right?). So a Kimmo for Phaneuf swap wouldn't be a bad deal, but when has Philly management ever had a futurist mentality. If there is a close decision to be made between a move that helps us win now or one that helps in the future, the "now" move is the one that gets made every time.

Coburn + Gagne (or Hartnell)...........hmmmm. I don't like losing even more forward depth and depending on one of Giroux or JVR tp produce in the play offs this year. It also makes the salary structure of the team even more top-heavy going forward, so I dislike it.

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01-25-2010, 02:41 PM
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I actually think Regehr would be a good addition, especially once parent is healthy. You can either tag team him with Kimmo or play him with Bartulis and Kimmo with Parent/Syvret/OKT. My only concern with Regehr is can he log 25 minutes a night? I mean I guess he might not have to with Pronger and Carle taking much of the load, but Coburn does log a lot of minutes, and who takes his spot on the PP?

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01-25-2010, 04:11 PM
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regehr kipper bourque giordano glencross are of interest


coburn okt carle gagne hartnell boucher briere pyro are available
oh, i didnt know you were the GM of the Flyers

Carle, Gagne & Briere arent available IMO

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01-25-2010, 04:22 PM
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oh, i didnt know you were the GM of the Flyers

Carle, Gagne & Briere arent available IMO
You would really say no to a deal for Gagne if you got good value??

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01-25-2010, 04:35 PM
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oh, i didnt know you were the GM of the Flyers

Carle, Gagne & Briere arent available IMO
Why wouldn't Gagne or Briere be available? I'd move Briere's contract in a heartbeat.

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01-25-2010, 04:37 PM
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Why wouldn't Gagne or Briere be available? I'd move Briere's contract in a heartbeat.
Well because, Briere has a NTC. I'm pretty sure Gagne does as well.

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01-25-2010, 04:41 PM
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Well because, Briere has a NTC. I'm pretty sure Gagne does as well.
Briere has a full no movement clause. Gagne has a NTC. Just about every big contract has some sort of NTC or NMC.

That means they likely won't be traded. However saying they're not available makes it sound like they're untouchable.

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01-25-2010, 07:51 PM
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Well because, Briere has a NTC. I'm pretty sure Gagne does as well.
Yeah, they both do. Most of our big name players do.

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01-25-2010, 09:05 PM
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I actually think Regehr would be a good addition, especially once parent is healthy. You can either tag team him with Kimmo or play him with Bartulis and Kimmo with Parent/Syvret/OKT. My only concern with Regehr is can he log 25 minutes a night? I mean I guess he might not have to with Pronger and Carle taking much of the load, but Coburn does log a lot of minutes, and who takes his spot on the PP?
Regehr makes $4.

A bit of a problem ...

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01-25-2010, 09:16 PM
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Flames fan here, and wondering if you guys are realing to make a deal and who is available. A guy like Gagne or Coburn perhaps? Scotty Hartnell would look good in the Flaming C to, but I am just not sure who is available from you guys. Anyone from Calgary you want?
these teams make bad dance partners.

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Regehr makes $4.

A bit of a problem ...
Thats why I propsed trading gagne to get him.

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01-25-2010, 09:25 PM
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these teams make bad dance partners.
I read the title of this thread and got sucked in. This isn't actually rumor though, is it? It reads like a bunch of "i would do this" or "would you do this" type of stuff. Is there an actual rumor that the Flyers are talking to the Flames? Just curious.

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01-25-2010, 09:33 PM
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Why wouldn't Gagne or Briere be available? I'd move Briere's contract in a heartbeat.
because they have NTC/NMC

Briere isnt going to waive it. Plus, we won't get enough value for him for Homer to want to move him. No one is touching him with his contract

same with Gagne

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01-25-2010, 09:41 PM
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Carle & Briere for Jokinen & Regehr and maybe a pick or a roster player under 1M a year.

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Carle & Briere for Jokinen & Regehr and maybe a pick or a roster player under 1M a year.
No thanks.

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01-25-2010, 11:33 PM
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Regehr makes $4.

A bit of a problem ...
Only four dollars? What a bargain on such a good d-man!


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01-26-2010, 12:31 AM
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Carle & Briere for Jokinen & Regehr and maybe a pick or a roster player under 1M a year.
Don't want Joker at all

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01-26-2010, 01:55 AM
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phaneuf is great, but we cannot afford him (in terms of cap and how much calgary would want for him)

i'd take kipper, but are the flames trading him?

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01-26-2010, 07:35 AM
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Gagne for Iginla

Pass. Iginla sucks even more than Gagne right now, if that is possible.

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01-26-2010, 08:15 AM
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Don't want Joker at all
Statistically Jokinen is similar player this year and he would be better at center, not to mention he is upcoming ufa and if Flyers wont win this year we want to think about getting a real goaltender. So yes, there is no upside in this trade.

Gagne Richards
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JVR Jokinen
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Kipper and Regher

We'll cough up Briere/Emery/Coburn/prospects or picks

Top 4 shutdown d-man and a top 5 goalie
Your BS offer was better right? I mean we are giving our non existing prospects and picks for Kiper and Regehr adding pretty much 10M in salary.

I mean Flames should be all over that one/ Briere and Emery for Kipper and Coburn for Regher.. I mean who wouldn't make that trade? Sutters will kill for that one.


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01-26-2010, 08:25 AM
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Really? He didn't make team Canada because he was over rated, not because he wasn't good enough?

Sarcasm aside, "you couldn't make team Canada" isn't exactly a damning statement.
Exactly.

Team Canada has a lot of pressure on them now. In fact, I'd be happy to put Team Canada Two up against them right now and have a good chance of getting gold. With Lecavalier/Carter/Staal/Roy you have just a good a group of centres as Team Canada One. Goaltending would be the only issue if Cam Ward wasn't up to it.

St. Louis-Lecavalier-Stamkos
Cammalleri-Carter-Sharp
Penner-Staal-Doan
Smyth-Roy-B Richards
Tavares-Arnott

Bouwmeester - Phaneuf
Regehr - Green
Jovanovski-Robidas
Barker - Beauchemin

Ward
Roloson

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01-27-2010, 01:16 PM
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I don't think the teams matchup for a trade.

Unless you guys want Boucher to backup Kiprusoff again.
I don't know about that, these teams match up well with salary cap problems.

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01-27-2010, 01:52 PM
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Exactly.

Team Canada has a lot of pressure on them now. In fact, I'd be happy to put Team Canada Two up against them right now and have a good chance of getting gold. With Lecavalier/Carter/Staal/Roy you have just a good a group of centres as Team Canada One. Goaltending would be the only issue if Cam Ward wasn't up to it.

St. Louis-Lecavalier-Stamkos
Cammalleri-Carter-Sharp
Penner-Staal-Doan
Smyth-Roy-B Richards
Tavares-Arnott

Bouwmeester - Phaneuf
Regehr - Green
Jovanovski-Robidas
Barker - Beauchemin

Ward
Roloson
Your Maple Leaf Two squad has Rolosson backing up Ward?

Someone named Steve Mason might protest that one.

...But I agree with what you're saying. Canada 2 would definitely compete for a medal.

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01-27-2010, 02:27 PM
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Exactly.

Team Canada has a lot of pressure on them now. In fact, I'd be happy to put Team Canada Two up against them right now and have a good chance of getting gold. With Lecavalier/Carter/Staal/Roy you have just a good a group of centres as Team Canada One. Goaltending would be the only issue if Cam Ward wasn't up to it.

St. Louis-Lecavalier-Stamkos
Cammalleri-Carter-Sharp
Penner-Staal-Doan
Smyth-Roy-B Richards
Tavares-Arnott

Bouwmeester - Phaneuf
Regehr - Green
Jovanovski-Robidas
Barker - Beauchemin

Ward
Roloson
That team is dirty.

Phaneuf and Bouwmeester are a bit overrated, that Robidas-Green pairing would probably be alot better.

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01-27-2010, 02:37 PM
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Your Maple Leaf Two squad has Rolosson backing up Ward?

Someone named Steve Mason might protest that one.

...But I agree with what you're saying. Canada 2 would definitely compete for a medal.
The Steve Mason sporting an .890 SV% that lost his starting gig on a crap team? He can protest all he wants, but it won't mean a whole lot.

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