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12-25-2004, 11:57 PM
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Sweden on the decline?

Maybe it's just me, but I just don't feel sweden is producing that many good prospects at least not the way they used too. You look at forsberg, sundin,naslund and lidstrom, but all these players were in the nhl early to middle 90's. Sweden is a very darkhorse to win the WJC unlike before when the tre kronor was a powerful team. Are the swedes in a decline and is rival country finland on the upswing?

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sweden has always sucked in WJC. what are you talking about?

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when Forsberg and Näslund dominated we were basically on par with Canada, but other than that Sweden has more or less always been behind nation's like Canada and Russia. I don't think Sweden has become worse, as much as nation's like USA and Finland has become better.

Don't expect medals from the Swedish 85's, 86's, but beyond those two age groups things, at least for now, look quite promising actually.

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Sweden has another system to develop players. We look at depth. We let our youngster sit on the bench and get limited ice time in exactly that age when you play JWC. So often, swedish players are latebloomers(Kahnberg, Nordgren, Zetterberg, Franzén, Hagos etc) and becomes good at the age 22-23. Even though we aren´t producing first rounders i´d say we still are strong as Finland, Chechz, Slovakia and USA.

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Yesterday´s round of games illustrated perfectly one of the reasons why we are falling behind.

Djurgården had to replace Marcus Nilson on the first line, and decided to play Fredrik Bremberg. Bremberg is a scoring-line player that has amassed a total of 5 points over the entire season. Meanwhile, the coach put Johannes Salmonsson, who is coming off a great WJC and is one of the biggest talents in Swedish hockey, on the fourth line alongside with Christopher Thörn, another talented junior who has managed to score twice during Christmas despite limited playing time.

Malmö meanwhile, opted to bench the most talented junior-aged Swedish centre Carl Söderberg on saturday and played him in the juniors during the entire weekend. And this is done by a team that hasn´t won in six games, are dead last in the league, and whose first line center is Peter Hammarström!

Most Swedish coaches are either too stupid, or too afraid to hurt an underperforming veterans feeling by benching him, to allow young kids to play in the SEL and develop. No wonder we are falling behind. Not even the kids that deserve to play in the SEL, are allowed to do so.


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Yesterday´s round of games illustrated perfectly one of the reasons why we are falling behind.

Djurgården had to replace Marcus Nilson on the first line, and decided to play Fredrik Bremberg. Bremberg is a scoring-line player that has amassed a total of 5 points over the entire season. Meanwhile, the coach put Johannes Salmonsson, who is coming off a great WJC and is one of the biggest talents in Swedish hockey, on the fourth line alongside with Christopher Thörn, another talented junior who has managed to score twice during Christmas despite limited playing time.

Malmö meanwhile, opted to bench the most talented junior-aged Swedish centre Carl Söderberg on saturday and played him in the juniors during the entire weekend. And this is done by a team that hasn´t won in six games, are dead last in the league, and whose first line center is Peter Hammarström!

Most Swedish coaches are either too stupid, or too afraid to hurt an underperforming veterans feeling by benching him, to allow young kids to play in the SEL and develop. No wonder we are falling behind. Not even the kids that deserve to play in the SEL, are allowed to do so.
Wow, that's a scary situation, a whole league coached by Glen Sather. :lol

I have a solution though, just send all the good Swedish prospects to my alma mater's hockey team. They could use the talent and have nothing to lose. Free education for the players, lots of snow, although they would be surrounded by a lot of Finns.

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Yesterday´s round of games illustrated perfectly one of the reasons why we are falling behind.

Djurgården had to replace Marcus Nilson on the first line, and decided to play Fredrik Bremberg. Bremberg is a scoring-line player that has amassed a total of 5 points over the entire season. Meanwhile, the coach put Johannes Salmonsson, who is coming off a great WJC and is one of the biggest talents in Swedish hockey, on the fourth line alongside with Christopher Thörn, another talented junior who has managed to score twice during Christmas despite limited playing time.

Malmö meanwhile, opted to bench the most talented junior-aged Swedish centre Carl Söderberg on saturday and played him in the juniors during the entire weekend. And this is done by a team that hasn´t won in six games, are dead last in the league, and whose first line center is Peter Hammarström!

Most Swedish coaches are either too stupid, or too afraid to hurt an underperforming veterans feeling by benching him, to allow young kids to play in the SEL and develop. No wonder we are falling behind. Not even the kids that deserve to play in the SEL, are allowed to do so.
And now when Daniel Alfredsson arrive in Frölunda Loui Eriksson probably are out of the linuep.

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And now when Daniel Alfredsson arrive in Frölunda Loui Eriksson probably are out of the linuep.
Hmm, things are getting really scary. We could lose two generations on this lockout crap...

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