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View Poll Results: #1 Red Wings Prospect
(F) Joakim Andersson 0 0%
(F) Cory Emmerton 0 0%
(F) Landon Ferraro 0 0%
(F) Jan Mursak 3 9.09%
(F) Gustav Nyquist 1 3.03%
(F) Tomas Tatar 15 45.45%
(D) Jakub Kindl 8 24.24%
(D) Brendan Smith 6 18.18%
(G) Daniel Larsson 0 0%
(G) Thomas McCollum 0 0%
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01-29-2010, 08:33 AM
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Red Wings Mid-Season Prospect Rankings

RWC has their new rankings up here, so i figure HF could follow suit to see where we think guys stand heading toward the break and the trade deadline.

so, i ask that you vote, and maybe post a blurb about who you voted for and why.
when i vote, i use a combination of talent, potential/expectations, NHL-readiness, and current production. if you use one of those exclusively, or some other combination, that's fine, just let us know.


note: Helm, Leino, and Gator have 'graduated'

edit: oh yeah, also mention who you'd like added for the next poll.


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01-29-2010, 09:32 AM
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They got the #1 prospect right. I don't know about those other rankings.

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01-29-2010, 09:41 AM
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Voted Tatar. Add Lashoff.

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01-29-2010, 09:46 AM
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I voted for Brendan Smith.. What he's doing in the NCAA is just too good to overlook for me..

Add Ritola..

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01-29-2010, 09:48 AM
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Between Kindl and Smith for me, went with Kindl.

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01-29-2010, 10:55 AM
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I want to see Smith play some in the pros before I'm willing to buy into his current season. Guys like Brandon Bochenski and Matt Carle have been NCAA scoring leaders in recent years and then haven't set the world on fire when they make the pros.

Just saying that Tatar's younger and his production in the AHL is more impressive to me at this time. I'd probably put Smith 2nd.

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01-29-2010, 03:28 PM
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Voted Kindl, add Ritola.

Guys, I've watched Tatar play. He needs SIZE and WEIGHT before he can even be close to NHL ready, therefore he should not be #1 prospect. I think a lot of him, but he needs lots of time before he will make it in the NHL IMO.

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01-29-2010, 04:49 PM
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Tomas Tatar by a bit. Kindl will be my #2 though.

Add Ritola.

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01-29-2010, 05:33 PM
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I went with Mursak, who is the one NHL forward prospect with both elite skating and terrific hands.
Tatar needs to show me a bit more, skating wise.

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01-29-2010, 05:36 PM
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Quote:
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I went with Mursak, who is the one NHL forward prospect with both elite skating and terrific hands.
Tatar needs to show me a bit more, skating wise.
Is Mursak 2 or 3 years away?

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01-29-2010, 06:11 PM
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I voted Smith. I think he's nearly ideal (and gets closer as he becomes more defensively responsible) for what the Red Wings want from his position, and if his development continues he will be a huge part of the blue line.

The reason I didn't go Tatar or Mursak is that while both guys have great skill-sets, just being able to put up points at the AHL level isn't enough to earn a significant role as a Wing forward, especially under Babcock. Kindl... man, I think he's stagnated. I've seen four GR games this year and wow. Yuck.

We've seen with Lidstrom and Rafalski that if a guy can play with a high skill level, he doesn't need to be a hard-nosed corner cruncher on the blue line.

With forwards, the expectation for grittier work is much higher. The forward version of Brian Rafalski would get benched. The defenseman version of Brian Rafalski plays 23+ minutes a night.

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I voted Smith. I think he's nearly ideal (and gets closer as he becomes more defensively responsible) for what the Red Wings want from his position, and if his development continues he will be a huge part of the blue line.
i watched him last weekend and his defensive brainfarts will for sure fit with the wings.
seriously, he looked pretty nice with skating, moving the puck, passing, hands, but his defensive game was bad. actually he reminded me of kronwall with his hands and passing which is a good thing.
but i think he's a few years away.

tatar and mursak are nice, but i'm not sold yet.

i went with kindl, even though i'm no fan of him.

in general i can't say the prospects impress me. i don't see any 1st line talent. the depth on the other hand is pretty good.

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01-29-2010, 06:57 PM
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I voted Nyquist, will be a superstar, ad Ritola, you should have been in over Emmerton anyway!

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Markström.

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Is Mursak 2 or 3 years away?
What does that have to do with anything?

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What does that have to do with anything?
Maybe he was just asking if someone knew if he was NHL-ready, and if not, how long would it take? bit aggressive man...

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I voted for Smith largely because he is dominating his league. I like Mursak as #2 but he has cooled off of late. I agree with adding Ritola.

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Maybe he was just asking if someone knew if he was NHL-ready, and if not, how long would it take? bit aggressive man...
I dunno. Maybe Heaton might have been using that wonder sense of humor to crack a joke.

How am I supposed to know, any better than Heater, if Mursak is two or three years away?

Personally, I think Mursak is probably ready for some spot duty next year, with a full time roster spot the next year.

I know Tatar has done more at a higher level at a much younger age than Mursak.
But Tatar is about as small, and while a better skater than Hudler, he lacks Mursak's burst. Mursak is close to Helm, speed wise. Not quite as fast, but better at shifting gears. And he's got hands.
I am so glad he's made the adjustment to the AHL this year. I was really high on this kid, and last year, he had a tough, tough time.

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01-29-2010, 10:51 PM
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I voted Smith. We've been talking about Kindl for some time now, and yeah, he's gotta come up next year but Smith is too dominant in his league (as stated above) to overlook. The superb skating ability, offensive skills, while having developed his defensive positioning cannot be overlooked at his age and position.

I put Tatar and Ferrero closer together as well. The latter has been set back by injuries, as noted, but I don't think he's behind Tatar.

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Surprised Nyquist doesn't have more votes.

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My #1 is Tatar. At 19, he's a pro, and is 2nd on the Griffins in points-per-game, behind only one Michael Nylander, 17-year NHL veteran. He exudes offensive talent and has a nice two-way game. Size/strength is an issue, but it's one of the easiest problems to overcome, and Tatar's only 19 anyway.

Kindl's a good prospect, but his toolbox is still in question, imo. Seems to project more as a bottom-4 defenseman than top-4 defenseman. Cam Barker part deux. His ceiling isn't as high as Tatar's and at three years older, he isn't even playing as well for the Griffins as Tatar is.

Smith's a good prospect too. I like him better than Kindl actually. However, his defense is still horrendous, which, frankly, is a big strike at this point. Massive point totals in college is nice, but not as impressive as Tatar's more complete game at the pro level.

I love Mursak, but Tatar is looking just as impressive and, again, is doing it while three years younger.

Oh, and my criteria is that "combination of talent, potential/expectations, NHL-readiness, and current production." A conglomeration of all factors. Highly subjective

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