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01-30-2010, 07:13 AM
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RFA : Marc Staal

Next summer Marc Staal is RFA.

IF a team made a proposal contract for him, New York would succeed in equating this proposal ??

Rangers have no much cap room and the signature for a RFA can allow a package of pick like (d) or (e)

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RFA rules :
(a) Up to $660,000 - No compensation
(b) $660,000 to $1 million - One 3rd round draft pick
(c) $1 to $2 million - One second round pick
(d) $2 to $3 million - One 1st and one 3rd round pick
(e) $3 to $4 million - One 1st, one 2nd and one 3rd round pick
(f) $4 to $5 million - Two 1sts, one 2nd and one 3rd round pick
(g) Over $5 million - Four 1st round picks
What all think about that ?


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01-30-2010, 07:18 AM
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Lets start by spelling is name correctly in the header, aight?

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01-30-2010, 08:02 AM
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You've got the numbers wrong. I believe what you've quoted is the RFA compensation amounts for 2007. This is the compensation amounts for last year:

http://www.mynhltraderumors.com/2009...ed-free-agent/

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$994,433 or below - None
$994,433 to $1,506,716 - 3rd round pick
$1,506,716 to $3,013,434 - 2nd round pick
$3,013,434 to $4,520,150 - 1st and 3rd round pick
$4,520,150 to $6,026,867 - 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round pick
$6,026,867 to $7,533,584 - 2 1st round picks, a 2nd and 3rd round pick
$7,533,584 - 4 1st round picks
Expect the amounts to be the same or higher this offseason.

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01-30-2010, 08:04 AM
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Pointless to be talking about this, especially right now. He'll be locked up, probably long-term, before he hits RFA. Close thread.

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01-30-2010, 08:06 AM
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Pointless to be talking about this, especially right now. He'll be locked up, probably long-term, before he hits RFA. Close thread.
I'd like to think that, but Sather hasn't shown much of a track record for getting his RFAs signed before July 1st.

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I'd like to think that, but Sather hasn't shown much of a track record for getting his RFAs signed before July 1st.
You're right, but I have to believe he sees Marc Staal as every bit as valuable as most of us here do and I can't be too concerned with it at this point.

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You've got the numbers wrong. I believe what you've quoted is the RFA compensation amounts for 2007. This is the compensation amounts for last year:

http://www.mynhltraderumors.com/2009...ed-free-agent/



Expect the amounts to be the same or higher this offseason.
Thanks for the list...
$4,520,150 to $6,026,867 - 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round pick

Very interesting !!!

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Thanks for the list...
$4,520,150 to $6,026,867 - 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round pick

Very interesting !!!
No one is giving him that much $$

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Lets start by spelling is name correctly in the header, aight?
Stupid viach !!!

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No one is giving him that much $$
Very unlikely after his season, and even after a great year.

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Give the kid 3 million for 3 years and call it a day.

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Give the kid 3 million for 3 years and call it a day.
Wayyyy too much, defensive dmen do not make that much on the second contract, esp when no ufa years are bought. He gets a deal similar to dubis, a little higher than what girardi earned on his second deal.
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Wayyyy too much, defensive dmen do not make that much on the second contract, esp when no ufa years are bought. He gets a deal similar to dubis, a little higher than what girardi earned on his second deal.
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Yeah, unfortunately this defensive D-man is on pace for more points than Mr. offensive D-man Rozsival

edit: Oh, and Redden also

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Staal has 19 even strength points already

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Staal is 10th in even strength points this year among defenseman....tied with Doughty.

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Staal is 10th in even strength points this year among defenseman....tied with Doughty.
And he's actually earning his points this season by making nice plays. It's a good thing Tortorella isn't giving him PP time, because he'd probably finish with 10 more points just by being on it.

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And he's actually earning his points this season by making nice plays. It's a good thing Tortorella isn't giving him PP time, because he'd probably finish with 10 more points just by being on it.
Staal needs to work on his shot. If he improved his shot he would be on the point on our powerplay, considering Drury is a forward and doesnt even have a great shot and Kotalik has no confidence and seems to give up a SH scoring chance every time hes out there.

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Staal needs to work on his shot. If he improved his shot he would be on the point on our powerplay, considering Drury is a forward and doesnt even have a great shot and Kotalik has no confidence and seems to give up a SH scoring chance every time hes out there.
Not sure if that will ever happen since he's pretty much always had a terrible shot. Would sure make our PP less one dimensional if he can though. If I were him I would spend the whole offseason just training in the weight room and shooting. Ask his brothers to help him out. Especially Eric who has one hell of a slapshot

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I expect Staal will get offered similar money as callahan even though he is not arbitration eligible. I think he will get more than Dubinsky who also was not arbitration eligible. Probably will take him to his last year of RFA.

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Not sure if that will ever happen since he's pretty much always had a terrible shot. Would sure make our PP less one dimensional if he can though. If I were him I would spend the whole offseason just training in the weight room and shooting. Ask his brothers to help him out. Especially Eric who has one hell of a slapshot
thought i read that kotalik worked a lot on his shot to stay in the NHL or something. staal obv has the size and strength to have a blast of a shot. i imagine with a lot of work he can make it an asset.

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Give the kid 3 million for 3 years and call it a day.
LOL

The day he starts playing physical and becomes a weapon on the PP, then yeah.

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thought i read that kotalik worked a lot on his shot to stay in the NHL or something. staal obv has the size and strength to have a blast of a shot. i imagine with a lot of work he can make it an asset.
Zdeno Chara and Souray and are two other players that developed their shot almost overnight. Chara only had 6 goals in his first 231 games. Souray had only 13 in his first 287 games. So obviously he won't be the first to do it

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LOL

The day he starts playing physical and becomes a weapon on the PP, then yeah.
Then he'd be worth about 5 million per. Try to familiarize yourself with the market before you LOL away someone else's opinion.

3/9 by the way, sounds very feasible.

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Zdeno Chara and Souray and are two other players that developed their shot almost overnight. Chara only had 6 goals in his first 231 games. Souray had only 13 in his first 287 games. So obviously he won't be the first to do it
Yes but Staal hasn't shown us a shot like those two, either. Not even a hint.

Souray put up almost a ppg in the WHL and Chara was sort of an anomaly.

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Zdeno Chara and Souray and are two other players that developed their shot almost overnight. Chara only had 6 goals in his first 231 games. Souray had only 13 in his first 287 games. So obviously he won't be the first to do it
better lock him up before he does that then

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