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01-24-2010, 09:57 AM
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I'll give him an incomplete grade as he missed a good deal of the season with the abdominal injury/surgery. If he attempted to play, unwisely, through the injury earlier in the season then that could be a reason for some of his struggles at that time. Now, he is part of a new coaching staff and the team has a different concept, an improved approach in recent weeks. The recent shutout was a strong team effort and the defense more than any other aspect of the team should be applauded. The general attachment to goaltending "it's not how many saves you make but when you make them" was emphasized yesterday when he made that terrific stop in the waning moments which overshadowed the blunder earlier. To date: incomplete but the team is improved and he has taken part in some wins which shouldn't be overlooked.

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01-24-2010, 10:29 AM
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1.) I'm a fan of Emery, as you all know.

2.) What MSE said.


I'll give him a free pass as he was exceptional (IMO) until that Western road trip before he left the line-up. Given the fact he's just returned from surgery, I'm not going to nail him to the cross just yet. I'm looking forward to the Olympic break for him to get fine tuned, then hopefully into the spring on a nice playoff run.

I'll make my judgment then.

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01-24-2010, 10:41 AM
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All things aside, I'd be happy if the Flyers were able to lock Emery up for another couple of years or so. Is he an RFA at the end of the year?
He's a UFA

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01-24-2010, 04:33 PM
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Mixture of Biron/Esche/Hextall, if he can ditch the Esche I am all about it
And the Biron.

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01-30-2010, 04:07 PM
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Whats your Take on Emery since the injury

Ok Ill admit it, I was really looking forward to getting back a Healthy, ready to go Ray Emery. So much so I figured so went Ray.. so goes the Flyers.

I'm not an expert on Ray. I watch the games that I can but I'm not so sure I like what he looks like since the "repair".

Constantly going down on every shot and while he doesn't flop around all over the place this stay down and cover the low ice.... not exactly thrilling me.

Pucks seem to pop out of his glove like it's on loan from Price!

Upper body looks stiff and lateral movement from areas behind the net also look suspect.

Are we seeing Emery as good as it gets? I seem to recall he was a lot more athletic before the injury.

Thoughts?

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01-30-2010, 04:12 PM
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im gonna hope he improves as he gets more starts. whether that happens is anyones guess...he looked kind of sluggish getting up after plays later in the game, and that worried me

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01-30-2010, 04:18 PM
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Hes looked ok...he cant control a rebound to save his life, but he hasnt been bad

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01-30-2010, 04:22 PM
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I think a lot of people are trying to say he's been playing bad, but I personally don't think he's been too bad. He's played well, but occasionally has had small slip ups which lead to chances. I have confidence he'll turn it up soon.

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01-30-2010, 04:35 PM
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I think we're ****ed.

I have little to no confidence in Ray. He flails far too much for my liking.

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01-30-2010, 04:37 PM
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He's essentially still in preseason form (7 games played since the injury), so it's a bit early to be drawing any conclusions. In those games he's got a .911 SV% (assuming I did my math right). Even if he doesn't look entirely comfortable, he's still been playing well.

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01-30-2010, 04:51 PM
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Today he had a good game, had some really good saves.

Wasn't tested on any breakaways which is what he needs most work on.

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01-30-2010, 05:19 PM
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As expected.

Mediocre.
I agree. As of now I hope he isn't resigned.

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01-30-2010, 05:43 PM
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He seems to have a hard time locating a puck after a save even when it in his equipment.

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01-30-2010, 05:58 PM
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He is getting there. He does make big saves, just has to cover the puck.

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01-30-2010, 06:13 PM
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He's so bad technically, it just causes so many red flags. I mean, I believe one of Homer's justifications for him was that he'd be more physical in the crease which would prevent scrums. I'm sorry, I'd rather have a guy that actually knows how to cover a puck.

He's gotten bailed out a few times with early whistles and has cost us several goals where he just doesn't know where the puck is in his equipment.

Mediocre is a pretty good word for him so far.

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01-30-2010, 06:46 PM
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Today he had a good game, had some really good saves.

Wasn't tested on any breakaways which is what he needs most work on.
Emery's stance and stiff legs are a big part of why he sucks at breakaways in my opinion.

His knees are relatively straight and his feet are too close. If he could bend his knees deeper, get his feet a little wider, pull his shoulders back (instead of bent forward how they are now), and sit his ass down in his stance.....it would make his knees that much closer and faster to the ice, his feet that much quicker to the posts, and make his catching and blocking motion faster and smoother. It would also help lateral mobility immensely as well, as it would give him more of a sideways push. It would keep his feet more flared out to the side in a wider butterfly when he drops, instead of his feet being behind his ass in the butterfly like they are (he has a really narrow B-fly). It all comes from the stance.

The problem with him doing this stuff is that it looks like he doesn't have the hip flexibility, so it would drag his shoulders and chest forward and **** up his catching motion and expose the corners more. He is an explosive athlete, he is just very stiff for a goalie.

Dude needs to stretch, stretch, stretch. Everything you do in net starts with your stance, and his sucks.


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01-30-2010, 07:01 PM
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He has an unusual skillset. He only really excels at one thing - stopping the first shot. Everything else he's either mediocre or terrible (although we've seen some Hasek in him who knows if that's good or bad). But it's enough where I'm happy with him going into the playoffs with the talent that's in front of him. You have to sacrifice payroll to have a group of skaters as good as ours. And the age-old maxim that goaltending wins championships might be just that -- age-old. The cap changes a lot of things. Either way anyone who ever had talent at some point can arguably get hot in the playoffs.

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01-30-2010, 07:21 PM
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Wouldn't hurt my feelings to see Roloson in the O&B post trade deadline.

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01-30-2010, 07:26 PM
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Wouldn't hurt my feelings to see Roloson in the O&B post trade deadline.
Neither would I. All depends on what we would give up. I would LOVE to see Nabokov come here in the offseason, given that Gagne/Hartnell find a new home after the season.

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01-30-2010, 07:30 PM
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I'm very meh on him, but it's not like we can do anything about improving our goaltending without major moves

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Neither would I. All depends on what we would give up. I would LOVE to see Nabokov come here in the offseason, given that Gagne/Hartnell find a new home after the season.
Yes, because an aging, expensive goalie is worth losing two of our top 6...

Oh, wait, he's Russian...

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Yes, because an aging, expensive goalie is worth losing two of our top 6...

Oh, wait, he's Russian...
Well, the best strategy would really be to ditch Carter, Richards, Hartnell, and Gagne and then get Nabby and Kovalchuk.

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Emery was great in the beginning of the year ..... hopefully he'll regain that form come playoff time.
if he does, I'll be very happy w/ him

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Well, the best strategy would really be to ditch Carter, Richards, Hartnell, and Gagne and then get Nabby and Kovalchuk.
four of our top six gone? we'd be a one man team

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four of our top six gone? we'd be a one man team
Yeah, you missed the joke. Pikachu is biased to the point of insanity.

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