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Flames deal a salary dump to make room for Kovalchuk?

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01-31-2010, 11:21 AM
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Flames deal a salary dump to make room for Kovalchuk?

Think about it.

The Flames just freed up approx 8 Million in cap space. They now have more than enough room to sign him for next season now that Phaneuf is off the books for next season.

This is just like the San Jose/Vancouver trade that send Ehrhoff/Lukowitch to Vancouver for prospects. This deal freed up room for San Jose to trade for Heatley.

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Boston and Chicago can definitely field better offers now that Phaneuf is out of the picture.

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01-31-2010, 11:24 AM
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Yeah but they also took four roster players back. What are their cap hits like?

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what are u talking about?

in terms of salary, its practically a wash

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Yeah but they also took four roster players back. What are their cap hits like?
Minimal.

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1. Ilya has said he does not want to be in a market where he is on the front pages every day, so I doubt he signs there in the offseason.

2. Who exactly are they going to move for Kovalchuk now?

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01-31-2010, 11:26 AM
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1. Ilya has said he does not want to be in a market where he is on the front pages every day, so I doubt he signs there in the offseason.

2. Who exactly are they going to move for Kovalchuk now?
Amazing how you still believe anything Kovalchuk says at this point.

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Minimal.
Its good to see you've put in the diligence into figuring this out.


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1. Ilya has said he does not want to be in a market where he is on the front pages every day, so I doubt he signs there in the offseason.

2. Who exactly are they going to move for Kovalchuk now?
PLUS HAGMAN IS AT 3 MILLION AND WHITE IS LOOKING FOR 4 MILLION NEXT YEAR .

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The Flames freed up a little over a mil in cap space on the whole. They didn't dump as much as you're saying but it gives them flexibility to add some offense if they want. Who that would be is another question but I just don't see it being Kovalchuk.

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Amazing how you still believe anything Kovalchuk says at this point.
I know, going to sign with a winner like the Rangers this offseason. I heard that one already.

The Flames only clear 150k in salary in this deal, I don't see it as a precursor to anything.

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The thing is, one of the best options for getting Kovalchuk right now, was Phaneuf. If Calgary is going to attempt to sign Kovalchuk during the summer...they'll be one of a few and I doubt Calgary will be on top of his go-to list.

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Minimal.
Well, for this season at least Calgary didn't free up any space.

Now, what can Calgary trade to Atlanta for Kovalchuk? And if they do acquire him or look to sign him in the off-season, why does Kovy sign with Calgary? Nice thought, but I can't really see it working out.

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Well the Flames will have to make some sort of trade shortly. Right now we have 16 forwards. Backlund might get sent down but he has been playing very well with Boyd and Iggy. None of the forwards injured are expected to miss significant time.

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Pretty much. They could have just moved Phaneuf for Kovalchuk if they needed to dump his salary. ****

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I know, going to sign with a winner like the Rangers this offseason. I heard that one already.

The Flames only clear 400k in salary in this deal, I don't see it as a precursor to anything.
Its only a precursor if we unload anymore big salaries to acquire Kovalchuk. Which wouldn't make any sense because why wouldn't we just use Phaneuf in a package for him instead.

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Yeah but they also took four roster players back. What are their cap hits like?
Here's the breakdown:

Hagman: 3 Million (for two more years after this)
White: 850k (RFA at the end of this season)
Mayers: 1.3 million (UFA at the end of this season)
Stajan: 1.75 million (UFA at the end of this season)

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Here's the breakdown:

Hagman: 3 Million (for two more years after this)
White: 850k (RFA at the end of this season)
Mayers: 1.3 million (UFA at the end of this season)
Stajan: 1.75 million (UFA at the end of this season)
Thanks man. Normally I use NHLnumbers for this but it isn't working right now.

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Well the Flames will have to make some sort of trade shortly. Right now we have 16 forwards.
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Well, for this season at least Calgary didn't free up any space.
No they acquired assets for a deal.

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Can't see a happy Iginla who took 7 mill per year just so they could pay Kovy 8.5+. Olli should be gone which frees up a ton of room after the year.

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The Flames have nothing to offer for Atlanta to trade Kovalchuk. What two young roster players do the Flames have that can help the Thrashers now? They are also bare of any high-end prospects.

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Kovy doesnt want to be in Canada

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Hagman: 3mil
White: 850k
Mayers: 1.3mil
Stajan: 1.75

~6.8mil

This was NOT a salary dump

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Hagman: 3mil
White: 850k
Mayers: 1.3mil
Stajan: 1.75

~6.8mil

This was NOT a salary dump
They unloaded Phaneuf's contract. Do you know how difficult it is to unload a contract like this?

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The Flames have nothing to offer for Atlanta to trade Kovalchuk. What two young roster players do the Flames have that can help the Thrashers now? They are also bare of any high-end prospects.
As the trade deadline approaches, Atlanta slowly loses any leverage for a fair and even deal given that Kovalchuk won't be back next season. They have to get something for him in return. The closer it gets to the trade deadline, the less Waddell will get in return for Kovalchuk.

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