only using Prospal-Jokinen-Gaborik on the powerplay.
That's what I want top 2 lines to look. 3th and 4th lines you can spin which ever way you want I wont get too excited over it. I would love to see Duby and Christy regain that magic with Gabby. Oh and Ollie is a 2nd liner.
I think we see this roster next game if this trade goes through.
Some various things on my mind about our line-combos.....
-Gaborik doesn't need Joki to succeed.
-Oli isn't a 1st liner anymore.
-We need secondary scoring.
-Dubi+Cally play great together.
-Avery shouldn't be on the 2nd, or 4th line.
-Drury shouldn't be on the 2nd, or 4th line.
-Voros and Brashear will alternate.
-AA should be our third line C.
-Boyle should be our 4th line C.
-Christensen and Lisin will alternate.
Torts is going to try various things. Christensen will eventually fail to meet Torts's expectations, and he'll sit one night for Lisin.
With Lisin in the Line-up, Dubi gets reacquainted with Prospal+Gabs. Either Avery, or Drury get promoted to the second line LW slot, depending on Torts's mood.
Torts will play Brashear on nights where Voros would have been a better option. And vice-versa.
I wonder what our PK/PP will look like now, assuming this trade goes through. . .
I know it doesn't make much sense to play Boyle out of position, and have Christensen playing on the bottom lines.. But depending on Prust's play, and Boyle's decent hands, we could potentially have an alternative 4th line, depending on who we're facing.
I rather not have guys like Christensen or Lisin on the 4th line. Torts doesn't even play the 4th line much they would be pretty useless in that role.
I don't think there's anything wrong with exploring the possibility. After all, we are offensively challenged, and a roster that has Christensen in place of Voros does provide some more options for Torts. Especially if Prust and Boyle can give him some room. Christensen doesn't shy away from getting the puck on net.
Just an idea if/when the whole christensen/gaborik experiment fails, or proves to be less successful than some other options we may have, or do have.
I have to admit i havn't followed Jokes too much, but from what i have read, he is a pretty one dimensional player. He has a great shot but apparently zero vision when he gets into the offensive zone. If that is the case, well let's just say we are not gonna like it.
Granted, he is much better than cotes with his effort, and a better finisher then Higgins, but i would be suprised if he set the world on fire here.
Now just to make my self sound confusing, there is another angle. There is the possibility that he might actually regain some form when he comes back to the east, he has a great track record here after all. But i wont get my hopes up.
Last but not least, the deal aint done. And i don't expect it to be. Sutter must have had some wild coke orgy yesterday and will, to our luck, come to his senses in the morning. " while wearing a G-string on his head"
Since you are a little more in the know about Jokinen, can you sum him up with a quick pro,con list please? Thank you
Edit: I was just looking at his plus minus for a bit, he does not come away good there. How is his defense?
hes not a great distributor of the puck, very north american type player, he can score goals, and he does so by getting to the dirty areas, but also with a very strong shot. I think he and Gaborik are going to work really well together because, as an actual offensive threat out there, he is going to take pressure off of Gabby, is going ot clear up some of the garbage, and since Gabby is such a superb passer, I think he's going to score some goals that way too. I dont think hes going to help Gabbys goal total so much as his assist total and I think he will help spread the load a bit.
He's not Ilya Kovalchuk, but for the vast majority of his career he's been a #1 center, and that is something we simply do not have now.
Jokinen is also physical, throws the body around pretty well (like most Fins do) and will drop the gloves if he has to (hes not a fighter, but he isn't scared to do it either, guy has guts)
worse comes to worse though, we got more talented
I love the way Jokinen plays , I really think he is going to work with Gabby, but time will tell. Bit time fan of this move.
Which part of his game, exactly, are you enamored with the most? His blistering speed? His willingness to sacrifice his body? Perhaps it's his Gretzky-like vision and playmaking ability? Or maybe his Selke-worthy play away from the puck?
PLEASE elaborate on this. I need a good laugh this morning.
I just don't see how jokinen and gaborik will work out on the same line as they are both shooters. Jokinen shoots a hell of a lot (according to shot totals), and that could take some chances away from gaborik... Gaborik is the real goal scorer and needs a setup man over another excessive shooter on his line.
them together on the PP would be nice to see how it pans out... sort of a "double threat" type.
Flames fan here, I see a lot of you have Olli on the first line, believe me, if this trade goes through and Jokinen is on the first line, you are going to be sorely disappointed.
It's not that we all think he's a number 1 center, it's that we don't have one anyway. He's been one in the past, you might as well give him a shot to do it here and hope that the change of scenery has some effect. If he doesn't then that's fine, he's gone at the end of the year and we'll go back to having Dubinsky, Christensen, or Prospal center Gaborik.