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02-04-2010, 11:25 AM
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Dallas interested in Goligoski

Now, let me preface this by saying that it came from TIOPS, and could easily have zero credibility. Some of the speculation in this article is also shocking in terms of values being discussed, though that doesn't necessarily make it untrue. The proposed HF value of a player and their real-world value are often very different.

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http://insidepittsburghsports.com/st...ensemen/21943/

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A top priority for the Dallas Stars is acquiring a young puck moving defenseman and while the Stars are among several teams expressing interest in Kris Letang, making a play for Letang would cost at least one of the Stars "big" young guns James Neal or Loui Eriksson.

Hence, the Stars have significant interest in puck moving defenseman Alex Goligoski, sources tell me.

The Stars have even made young stay-at-home defenseman Mark Fistric and 20 year old winger Jamie Benn to a much lesser extent, available in a potential deal for Goligoski, a league source tells me.
I would totally send Letang and a pick for Neal or Eriksson, but understandably Dallas is not interested in that.

The notion of Benn, however, is very intriguing.

What does everyone think the approximate value of Benn would be for us? What picks or prospects would need to be added? He would make basically any prospect in our system other than Tangradi expendable.

I would give Goligoski and Caputi and possibly even a pick for Benn and Ott. Is that too much? Not enough?

Ott's cap hit is 1.5m and he's an UFA after this season. Benn is on his ELC and is a RFA in 12/13, with a cap hit of 0.822.

With the cap hit we have remaining, and the money we could save by trading a Dupuis or a Fedotenko as a salary dump, we could roll with a lineup like this in the playoffs.

Kunitz - Crosby - Guerin
Malkin - Staal - Fedotenko/Talbot
Cooke - Ott - Kennedy
Rupp - Adams - Godard/Dupuis

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02-04-2010, 11:28 AM
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TIOPS is such crap. They make obvious rumors up, we all know Dallas has a need for puck movers and a surplus of forwards. Having said that , Benn's contract and potential would probably be a perfect fit for us.

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i dont know too much about the dallas players being offered but, i see too much upside with Letang. he seems like our answer for gonchar after he leaves, not Gogo. Gogo seems to lack in defensive play compared to Letang. also Letang is much more physical.

i wouldnt want to see ott coming our way. we have cooke already no need for another pesty type player, also ott is a bit of a loose cannon at times...not worth the trouble

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Now, let me preface this by saying that it came from TIOPS, and could easily have zero credibility. Some of the speculation in this article is also shocking in terms of values being discussed, though that doesn't necessarily make it untrue. The proposed HF value of a player and their real-world value are often very different.

With that said:
http://insidepittsburghsports.com/st...ensemen/21943/



I would totally send Letang and a pick for Neal or Eriksson, but understandably Dallas is not interested in that.
The notion of Benn, however, is very intriguing.

What does everyone think the approximate value of Benn would be for us? What picks or prospects would need to be added? He would make basically any prospect in our system other than Tangradi expendable.

I would give Goligoski and Caputi and possibly even a pick for Benn and Ott. Is that too much? Not enough?

Ott's cap hit is 1.5m and he's an UFA after this season. Benn is on his ELC and is a RFA in 12/13, with a cap hit of 0.822.

With the cap hit we have remaining, and the money we could save by trading a Dupuis or a Fedotenko as a salary dump, we could roll with a lineup like this in the playoffs.

Kunitz - Crosby - Guerin
Malkin - Staal - Fedotenko/Talbot
Cooke - Ott - Kennedy
Rupp - Adams - Godard/Dupuis
Neither am I. A straight swap of Letang for Neal would be acceptable , but not with a pick as well.

I also think that Gogo and a pick would be way too much for a 3rd line aggitator like Ott.

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Neither am I. I wouldn't swap Letang for either of them straight up, let alone with a pick!
Yeah you are legitimately high if you wouldn't trade Letang for Eriksson, who's about to become one of the best contracts in the league. He would score 40 goals and play unbelievable two way hockey for 4.25M. I think everyone in their right minds makes that deal 10 times out of 10.

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Neither am I. I wouldn't swap Letang for either of them straight up, let alone with a pick!
Seriously? You wouldn't trade Letang for Eriksson straight up?

I like Letang's game and see a ton of potential in him, believe me, but Eriksson is a 24 year old left winger that has 50 points in 56 games with 21 goals. He's signed through 16/17 @ 4.250 per.

That's basically Pittsburgh's own personal winger nirvana.

If that trade were offered, Shero would actually have to throw away the clothes he was wearing because he would literally expulse every form of waste and fluid that the human body is capable of producing at the same time.

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TIOPS is such crap. They make obvious rumors up, we all know Dallas has a need for puck movers and a surplus of forwards. Having said that , Benn's contract and potential would probably be a perfect fit for us.
Perfect would be right handed RW.

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I'd consider a deal based around Gogo and Benn.

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Yeah you are legitimately high if you wouldn't trade Letang for Eriksson, who's about to become one of the best contracts in the league. He would score 40 goals and play unbelievable two way hockey for 4.25M. I think everyone in their right minds makes that deal 10 times out of 10.
This.

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I'd consider a deal based around Gogo and Benn.
Agreed. How do you think they'd feel about something like:

Benn and Karlis Skrastins for Gogo and a 3rd/4th. Skrastins has a 1.4M deal for this and next season.

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Benn and Fistric for Goligoski? Yes please.

Speaking of TIOPS, cadow made reference yesterday to the fact they were discussing the negotiations between the team and Gonchar and Letang's agents. Anybody know what was said about those negotiations?

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Dallas has it made with wingers, could be good trading partners. Would like to have one of Gonchar/Letang signed before we start trading guys.

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Kunitz - Crosby - Guerin
Malkin - Staal - Fedotenko/Talbot
Cooke - Ott - Kennedy
Rupp - Adams - Godard/Dupuis
Is Benn still in juniors or AHL?

So are we talking Benn, Fistric and Ott?
Who does Fistric compare to?

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I'd prolly trade Gogo ,Sneep and a pick to Dallas for Benn and Fistric


maybe leave out the pick

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Is Benn still in juniors or AHL?

So are we talking Benn, Fistric and Ott?
Who does Fistric compare to?
Benn is centering Dallas's second line around Brendan Morrow and Steve Ott at the moment.

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Dallas : Gologoski , Tangradi , Sneep , 1st 2010

Pitt: Benn, Neal, Fistric


i may be way off

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Is Benn still in juniors or AHL?

So are we talking Benn, Fistric and Ott?
Benn is an NHL rookie this year. He has 11G, 14A for 25P in 56 games this season and has recently been playing center on a line with Ott and Morrow.

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Benn and Fistric for Gogo would be a robbery. I'd do what I could to include Ott as well.

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Dallas : Gologoski , Tangradi , Sneep , 1st 2010

Pitt: Benn, Neal, Fistric


i may be way off
There's no way Dallas does that. I think they'd need Goligoski, Sneep and the 1st to trade Neal alone. They think that highly of him, and rightly so.

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If by some struck of good luck and insanity on Dallas' part, they offered us Eriksson for Letang, I'd make that trade in a heartbeat. And I'm a Letang fan.

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Benn is an NHL rookie this year. He has 11G, 14A for 25P in 56 games this season and has recently been playing center on a line with Ott and Morrow.
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Kunitz - Crosby - Guerin
Malkin - Staal - Fedotenko/Talbot
Cooke - Ott - Kennedy
Rupp - Adams - Godard/Dupuis
I was just thrown off when I didnt see Benn in the lineup.

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Dallas : Gologoski , Tangradi , Sneep , 1st 2010

Pitt: Benn, Neal, Fistric


i may be way off
I really don't see Dallas parting ways with Neal.

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Dallas : Gologoski , Tangradi , Sneep , 1st 2010

Pitt: Benn, Neal, Fistric


i may be way off
You are. That would just be dumb for Dallas.

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If by some struck of good luck and insanity on Dallas' part, they offered us Eriksson for Letang, I'd make that trade in a heartbeat. And I'm a Letang fan.
Or Neal.

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Why would Dallas trade away any of their big forward talent though? None have unreasonable contracts. They've got a pretty good foundation for when Modano leaves and the old guard is gone. Sure they might love to have Gogs or Tanger but I don't see them as being so deep at F they can afford to just swap away. They'd be trading one problem for another down the road pretty much. I think Dallas needs to just keep on keepin' on, find a good replacement for Turco and in a year or two they'll be a very solid team.

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If by some struck of good luck and insanity on Dallas' part, they offered us Eriksson for Letang, I'd make that trade in a heartbeat. And I'm a Letang fan.
I think I'd take Neal before Eriksson. But both are good.

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