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02-07-2010, 06:20 PM
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Scott Niedermayer

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Kevin Bieksa
Cory Schneider
3rd round 2010.

Tear my balls off, HF.

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02-07-2010, 06:30 PM
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Scott Niedermayer

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Cory Schneider
3rd round 2010.

Tear my balls off, HF.
With scizzors or bare hands? No way in hell do the Ducks do this.

If you want Niedermayer, start with at least a 1st or a young stud defensemen or stud defensive prospect.

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02-07-2010, 06:40 PM
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3rd round 2010.

Tear my balls off, HF.
we just signed a young goalie to a 4.5 million dollar per year extension, why would we want Schneider?

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02-07-2010, 06:42 PM
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Bieksa's been terrible this year, I don't see why the Ducks want any part of him. Especially when we have other underachieving defensemen on the roster.

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02-07-2010, 06:45 PM
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Bieksa's been terrible this year, I don't see why the Ducks want any part of him. Especially when we have other underachieving defensemen on the roster.
Add that to the Ducks just signing a young goaltender to an extension and this deal=fail.

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02-07-2010, 06:48 PM
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Not interested.

We can't make it under the cap on this and Niedermayer isn't the player he once was.

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02-07-2010, 07:31 PM
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to some Ducks fans,you get a blue chip prospect a top 4 defenceman for a rental.As a Canucks fan no thanks,Niedermayer isn't the same player he was a couple of years ago.Looking at some trades around the NHL,Phaneuf+good prospect got 3 decent NHL players,Phaneuf is 24 and has numerous more years left on his contract,Niedermayer isn't going to get a similar return!if you think so look at the Kovalchuk trade Atlanta got back a blue chip prospect+late first+decent prospect,Kovalchuk>> Niedermayer in terms of value.I would offer Bernier+Bieksa+3 rd if the Ducks don't like that they can go elsewhere.The Canucks don't need Niedermayer as much as before cause of the emergence of Christian Ehrhoff.

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02-07-2010, 07:49 PM
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to you as well. ANA has about as much use for CS as you do: next to none.

Bieksa + an AHL goalie + a late 3rd isn't a very good return.
If it weren't for Luongo I assure you Schneider would be a NHL goalie.The Canucks aren't going to offer a blue chip prospect+Top 4 defenceman+pick for a Rental!

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I'd do it.

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to you as well. ANA has about as much use for CS as you do: next to none.

Bieksa + an AHL goalie + a late 3rd isn't a very good return.
At least we can hope that the 3rd is a late pick.

I don't understand why some Canuck fans think that other teams want Bieksa. He's been in at least half of the proposals I've seen here and on other forums because Canuck fans are tired of his play - if we don't value him highly, why would other teams value him? I understand a change of scenery might help, but it's rarely the intention of these proposed trades.

For example, how about Yashin circa 2007 to Vancouver for Luongo? What, we don't like that trade? Why not? Yashin has some talent, right? Yeah. Exactly. Bieksa's value isn't that high so unless Milbury becomes a GM again, we can just hope he plays well in the playoffs because he will almost certainly be a Canuck.

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Big time overpayment from Van.

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Does anyone pay attention to the Salary Cap? Bieska and Schneider wouldn't even be close! You have 3.75 million going to Anaheim and 6.75 million going to Vancouver who has 250k in cap room...

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Big time overpayment from Van.
A backup goalie and a defensively challenged defensman is overpayment for Scott Niedermayer? Unreal.

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02-07-2010, 08:09 PM
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A backup goalie and a defensively challenged defensman is overpayment for Scott Niedermayer? Unreal.
Schneider is a blue chip prospect and Bieksa is a 40-45 point physical defenceman,for a aging rental.Overpayment!

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Too much for a rental from Vancouver, and not the type of pieces Anaheim would be looking to get for a Niedermayer deadline deal. So a bad proposal through and through.

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Schneider is a blue chip prospect and Bieksa is a 40-45 point physical defenceman,for a aging rental.Overpayment!
Since when are even proven goalies traded for a lot of value? Vancouver fans should especially realize this. Bieksa has all of one goal this year on a pretty good team, and has had well documented injury and consistency issues. It isnt a coincidence that Bieksa's name is bandied about in a lot of trade proposals on this board, its because he isnt that good.

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02-07-2010, 08:15 PM
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Schneider is a blue chip prospect and Bieksa is a 40-45 point physical defenceman,for a aging rental.Overpayment!
Good. So you guys think this trade sucks from your perspective and we think it sucks from ours. /thread.

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02-07-2010, 08:18 PM
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Good. So you guys think this trade sucks from your perspective and we think it sucks from ours. /thread.
Exactly!

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Good. So you guys think this trade sucks from your perspective and we think it sucks from ours. /thread.
There's a difference between saying "not what we need" and "those guys have no value".

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Since when are even proven goalies traded for a lot of value? Vancouver fans should especially realize this. Bieksa has all of one goal this year on a pretty good team, and has had well documented injury and consistency issues. It isnt a coincidence that Bieksa's name is bandied about in a lot of trade proposals on this board, its because he isnt that good.
I like this point and King Canuck cannot possibly refute it. Also, even if Schneider is a blue chip prospect, he plays goalie, and Anaheim just resigned their current goalie for 4 years. Simply doesn't make sense.

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This guy is obviously a canucklehead

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There's a difference between saying "not what we need" and "those guys have no value".
I never said those guys have no value.

Ducks don't want Bieksa. Ducks dont need CS. Proposal=Fail. Simple as that.

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02-07-2010, 09:22 PM
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02-07-2010, 09:54 PM
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I wouldn't do it from a Canucks POV.

Bieksa and Cory Schneider would have more value to a different team needing one of the best goaltending prospects, and a scoring, tough s.o.b. in Bieksa.

Exactly as a different poster said there isn't a need met from a Ducks POV.

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