Do we really have the best D in the atlantic?

[tuckrr]

carter also has 3 blocked shots for ever shot which goes on net, so cut his shooting % by 4

also, im not disputing stats right now, i am going off of talent v work ethic.

you cant look me in the eye and say carter has more talent than st louis or lecavalier (well you cant look me in the eye at all right now)

[FlyHigh]

Yeah, look at the top-5 in shots in the NHL (they showed this on Versus last night).

1. OV - 42 goals.
2. Parise - 26 goals.
3. Carter - 23 goals.
4. Crosby - 39 goals.
5. Gaborik - 35 goals.

So I mean, obviously Parise (45 goals last year) and Carter have essentially been shooting at the same rate as the year before, but the puck just isn't going in this year. Parise plays with better linemates (Zajac and Langenbrunner), so he's going to get some more assists and he's a better playmaker, but it's a similar situation IMO.

Sometimes you just have seasons where the puck isn't going in, Carter got 1 last night, but also got absolutely robbed by Brodeur on another one where he did everything right and Brodeur just stoned him.

I think he'll be a consistent 35-45 goalscorer and face it, that's really pretty good, only 15 guys had 35+ last year.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by tuckrr

carter also has 3 blocked shots for ever shot which goes on net, so cut his shooting % by 4

also, im not disputing stats right now, i am going off of talent v work ethic.

you cant look me in the eye and say carter has more talent than st louis or lecavalier (well you cant look me in the eye at all right now)

Yes I can.

http://www.hockey-reference.com/play...stlouma01.html

Martin St Louis is a very good player, but he isn't THAT special. He's an undersized wing with good speed, and has benefited from getting to play with Lecavalier (who absolutely has more talent than Richards or Carter). When St Louis was Jeff Carter's age as of now, he put up 18-22-40, and followed that with 16-19-35 (in 53 games). Jeff Carter is going to have at least two (3 if he does it next year) 30 goal campaigns under his belt before St Louis had his first, one of those a 46 goal season, and St Louis' career high is 43.

Of course, you're not going off stats, you're going off of "talent v. work ethic," a completely non-objective line of logic...and the only way you can make the argument that we don't have really good talent on this team.