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02-09-2010, 03:44 PM
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This is all recited fluff.

Wake me up when they start talking numbers.

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02-09-2010, 03:48 PM
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This is all recited fluff.

Wake me up when they start talking numbers.
last game Martin was play with 3 lines only. I think the numbers are already in !!!

Martin is practicing for next season

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02-09-2010, 03:52 PM
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I think you're close here, but I think Pleks is going to accept something just a bit lower.

I believe you're right on with the 4 year contract, though.

Look for a 4M - 4.2M cap hit.

Think Marc Savard.
Savard is 32 and is signed through 39. at 39, his cap hit will be 4.2, yet his salary will be 500k.

if you reduce his contrat only by 2 years (those two last years at 500k),
it becomes a 27M contract for 5 years ... 5.4M
if you remove another year, the 5th at 1M, it becomes a 4 year for 26M contract, 6.5M per...

don't get fooled by that 4.2M... unless it's a 12 years contract (at Plek's age, it has to be, for that to make sense)

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02-09-2010, 03:53 PM
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lol why??

Gomez is a better passer than Marleau, and is playing well with his two sniper wingers (Gionta & Pouliot). Marleau will cost 7 million anyways.
just for the kick of it.
just so that stupid people don't call radio show saying that Gomez don't score enough (he is not paid to score!! dammit!).
just so that we pull a Glen Sather and "get rewarded for our mistake"... (I don't think Gomez is a mistake, particularly looking at Drunk Higgins crying in CGY)

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I think you're close here, but I think Pleks is going to accept something just a bit lower.

I believe you're right on with the 4 year contract, though.

Look for a 4M - 4.2M cap hit.

Think Marc Savard.
Don't think Marc Savard.

Different age groups.

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02-09-2010, 03:54 PM
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I remeber when Souray and Streit said this.

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02-09-2010, 03:58 PM
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I remeber when Souray and Streit said this.
MY #%#@$ they must have bought this speach off the internets.

Does Plek have a photocopy machine?

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You should never take what a gangsta says seriously.

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02-09-2010, 04:01 PM
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IMO Marc Savard is a good comparable for Plecs..
5 million cap hit over 7 years

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You should never take what a gangsta says seriously.
is there some type of gangster manual we can read up on ? so we can try to get a bettter read on the situation? should we look for a certian color turtle neck to give us the sign?

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IMO Marc Savard is a good comparable for Plecs..
5 million cap hit over 7 years
cant do that, he's too young.
7 years bring him to 34 and he's screwed.

it has to either bring him at 39 y.o.

OR

to be shorter and more expensive.

checkit, that's what they ALL do.

Look at Marian Hossa or Zetterberg.

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02-09-2010, 04:07 PM
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I remeber when Souray and Streit said this.
yes.

however, they both wanted things we couldn't offer :

Markov was our true #1.

it's just like Arnott leaving Dallas... he wanted to be a #1 center, but Modano was the ****.

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02-09-2010, 04:08 PM
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is there some type of gangster manual we can read up on ? so we can try to get a bettter read on the situation? should we look for a certian color turtle neck to give us the sign?
The color of the turtle neck would be a good sign I think.

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02-09-2010, 04:10 PM
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cant do that, he's too young.
7 years bring him to 34 and he's screwed.

it has to either bring him at 39 y.o.

OR

to be shorter and more expensive.

checkit, that's what they ALL do.

Look at Marian Hossa or Zetterberg.
I believe he has the potential to be those type of players you named, but in reality Plecs has never been past the second round in the playoffs thus not being a "proven" player... not yet at least.

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02-09-2010, 04:12 PM
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4 years contract

year 1 = 4
year 2 = 4
year 3 = 5.5
year 4 = 5.5

4.75 CAP HIT


Why back load a contract? It carries more weight by front loading it.

5 years 22 mil

1-6 mil
2-6 mil
3-5 mil
4-3 mil
5-2 mil

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02-09-2010, 04:14 PM
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IMO Marc Savard is a good comparable for Plecs..
5 million cap hit over 7 years
Savard is a 4 mil cap hit...28 mil over 7 years.

Derek Roy and David Krejci are good comparisons.

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02-09-2010, 04:16 PM
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I liked this part of the article where Josh Gorges talks about Bob Gainey:

"I was in and out of the lineup and wasn't playing a whole lot," he recalled. "I remember in Ottawa where I was scratched for a game and (Bob) said, 'Come meet with me.' I thought for sure I was going to be sent down or traded again. But he just wanted to talk - settle me down and tell me how things were going to look. He helped me through it. I was ready to pack it in and he actually took me aside to give me that boost of confidence to keep going and keep fighting.

"I respect him so much - not just because of his position with the team, but because of the person he is."

shows you that Gainey brought more positives to the table than just those we can see on paper.
He did this with Darche too, recently.

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02-09-2010, 04:17 PM
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He did this with Darche too, recently.
...but he isn't all talk like Burke so HF fans don't like him.

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02-09-2010, 04:20 PM
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Pleks could get a big payday on the open market however we would like him to stay. Moving Hamrlik is likely to happen as well as Spacek giving us around 11 million to split between 1 ufa Dman, Pleks and Subban/Weber for the next few seasons. Pretty sure we can get something done, I would say 4,4.75, 5,5.5 and 5.5 over the next 5 years, cap hit is 4.95 which is reasonable and movable in case he stinks it up again.

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02-09-2010, 04:21 PM
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Savard is a 4 mil cap hit...28 mil over 7 years.

Derek Roy and David Krejci are good comparisons.
I don't think Roy was about to become unrestricted, while I know Krejci wasn't... so, it might not be a very good comparaison.

When we know Kristian Huselius got 4.75mil a year for 4 years... we got to expect Plekky to get more than that.

I'd like a 4 or 5 years deal around 5mil a year...

But we need to get rid of Gomez's contract.

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02-09-2010, 04:25 PM
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Pleks could get a big payday on the open market however we would like him to stay. Moving Hamrlik is likely to happen as well as Spacek giving us around 11 million to split between 1 ufa Dman, Pleks and Subban/Weber for the next few seasons. Pretty sure we can get something done, I would say 4,4.75, 5,5.5 and 5.5 over the next 5 years, cap hit is 4.95 which is reasonable and movable in case he stinks it up again.
Who would take Hammer's place?

People tend to forget how Hamrlik helped stabilized the D core. Want to go back to the Mr. minus Souray days?

I agree Spacek needs to go, but only because he has no place on the ride side... I'd like to get a big physical right-handed defensive defenceman who can be Markov's protector.

There's another overpaid defenceman who we could maybe swapt for Spacek... Commodore... I wonder?

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02-09-2010, 04:34 PM
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I don't see him leaving.

He is clearly the #1 center of this team.

Problem with Souray, Streit, Komi, etc. was that they thought they were bigger than what they were with us.

Souray wanted to be a #1
Komi a #2
and
Streit a #2 or 3

Plekanec will surely ask to be a #1
and Gauthier won't refuse that.
If he refuses, that's a big fail.
I don't know about clearly the number 1 center. He hasn't even had consecutive good seasons yet,a nd Gomez has closed the gap quite a bit the last month or so. Pleks has had the best season among any of our centers, but the fact is, we have no idea what to expect next year? Will he be 2009 Pleks or will he be 2010 Pleks?

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02-09-2010, 04:38 PM
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Once we sign Plek, I'd like to see Gauthier pull a slather :

trade Gomez on June 30th and sign Marleau (as Sather signed Gabo) on July 1st.
The Rangers are clearly worse off with Gabby. Gomez made others around him better, while playing a solid 2 way game. Gaborik is just a stat compiler and has weakened their offence as a whole.

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02-09-2010, 04:43 PM
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The Rangers are clearly worse off with Gabby. Gomez made others around him better, while playing a solid 2 way game. Gaborik is just a stat compiler and has weakened their offence as a whole.
Come on... ask any Rangers fans if they would do a Gaborik-Gomez trade and they would laugh.

Don't tell me Gaborik doesn't make Prospal good... he wouldn't even be in the league right now, without him.

Gaborik is a superstar, paid like a superstar, while Gomez is a 2nd line center, paid like a superstar... huge difference.

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The Rangers are clearly worse off with Gabby. Gomez made others around him better, while playing a solid 2 way game. Gaborik is just a stat compiler and has weakened their offence as a whole.
I'm sorry but Gaborik >>>>>>>>>> Gomez. I mean Gaborik has nearly has many goals as Gomez has points (!)

The problem with the Rangers is not Gaborik, its the rest of the team. Other than Gaborik only Callahan has a good chance of getting more than 20 goals.

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