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02-11-2010, 11:57 AM
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Potter, Johnson down, Zaba up

http://rangers.nhl.com/club/news.htm...id=DL|NYR|home

well so much for dealing a Dman before Friday(I would think)

Also means Henrik is starting the next 2 games with Zaba backing up

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So we called up Potter for one game?

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So we called up Potter for one game?
Hey, at least he got to play!

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So we called up Potter for one game?
Yeah, just to bench MDZ.
Back to 6 Ds means Gabo is okay.

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maybe Torts want to fry Henry before the Olympics ....Torts is Asst coach of the US Team ...yes I am kidding.

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Potter just never got the timing right. Guy needs to be dealt to a place with a weak defensive system where he'd be given a fair chance.

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Potter just never got the timing right. Guy needs to be dealt to a place with a weak defensive system where he'd be given a fair chance.
You mean like the one the rangers have right now?

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02-11-2010, 12:26 PM
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You mean like the one the rangers have right now?
Not sure I agree with you there brother.

We have a weak system in a lot of areas, defense isnt one of them.

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Not sure I agree with you there brother.

We have a weak system in a lot of areas, defense isnt one of them.
I dont know. There have been times where we look lost in our own end. But the main glaring problem is that none of our defenders seem to want to get physical or can get physical with opposing forwards. Not saying Potter is the meanest of defenseman, but he definitely couldnt hurt that area. We need to be able to knock guys off the puck more. I feel as if our most offensive minded defenseman, Del Zotto, tries to take the body more than anyone else.

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Not sure I agree with you there brother.

We have a weak system in a lot of areas, defense isnt one of them.
We are a great defensive team...we have Rozy and Redden.

Potter just happens to be better then both but he doesn't make over $5 million...so, he will go to a team where he will be useful.

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We have a weak system in a lot of areas, defense isn't one of them.
So far the defensive system I have observed is a three tier system. It's a dynamic combination of having absolutely no idea when to pinch, crapping their pants at the slightest sign of contact and blindly throwing the puck along the walls and slot in a panic.

Recently the system has been adjusted to include spectating as your star player takes a beating. A little more work in this at practice and it can be incorporated into the defensive system and make it flawless.

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I think by defensive system Fitzy meant the prospects we have.

Or he was just being sarcastic

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We are a great defensive team...we have Rozy and Redden.

Potter just happens to be better then both but he doesn't make over $5 million...so, he will go to a team where he will be useful.
thats quite the exageration

yes redden and rosi are overpaid, its been beaten to death, but they're NHL defensemen....Potter is not (not yet at least)

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We are a great defensive team...we have Rozy and Redden.

Potter just happens to be better then both but he doesn't make over $5 million...so, he will go to a team where he will be useful.
Potter ain't good to carry Rozy's jock at this time.

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Not sure I agree with you there brother.

We have a weak system in a lot of areas, defense isnt one of them.
You're kidding, right? Our defense stinks. What games are you watching? Nobody ever clears the crease. Even Staal has lost his edge. What is so difficult about taking the man in front and letting them know you're there? This team should be sponsored by Hostess. Potter never got a fair shake. He was recalled last year and outplayed Tinman, who somehow gets a regular shift despite being washed up. Put Potter on another team and he'll stick bc they'll actually play him instead of screwing him over. They screwed Ivan Baranka, wasted Sauer and are screwing Heineken, who will go back home. And should we mention Sangs? Could he be any worse than R & R? It's what this organization does. They have no concept.

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thats quite the exageration

yes redden and rosi are overpaid, its been beaten to death, but they're NHL defensemen....Potter is not (not yet at least)
Oh really. Because he's been played so much. He's a better skater than either and showed he could contribute last year. Redden and Rozsival are only still here because of Savior's ineptitude. Nobody else wants them. So much for being NHL defensemen.

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I think by defensive system Fitzy meant the prospects we have.

Or he was just being sarcastic
Yes, I'm absoutely sure he meant the prospects we have, not the current defensive quality we have in the lineup. No sane person can mean we have a good defense.

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Oh really. Because he's been played so much. He's a better skater than either and showed he could contribute last year. Redden and Rozsival are only still here because of Savior's ineptitude. Nobody else wants them. So much for being NHL defensemen.
my judgement from what i saw of him last year, preseason, and last night is that he's not there

people are ridiculous in their judgement of Rosi and Redden....especially Rosi recently

looking past their contracts, they're not as horrible as people make them out to be

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Why are you guys arguing over Potter/Rosi/Reds for? The OP was just saying that Potter and Johnson went down and Zapa came up.

Where do you find a way to argue in there?

Sheesh. Maybe the trade freeze and trade deadline has everyone anxious and you guys are taking it out on each other a little too much? Go outside, take a walk around the block a few times. Get yourself a good old fashioned Peanut Butter And Jelly Sandwich, a COLD Glass of Milk (and for all the lactose intolerant people like myself, use Lactaid Milk. Its pretty good) and sit at the table and just let your thoughts go while you bite into the deliciousness they call PB&J

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my judgement from what i saw of him last year, preseason, and last night is that he's not there

people are ridiculous in their judgement of Rosi and Redden....especially Rosi recently

looking past their contracts, they're not as horrible as people make them out to be
What games are you watching?

I will take Rozy over Redden but that is not saying much.

They both are 5-6 defensemen at best at any price.

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Torts didn't like Potters jam?

I wish we would just give this Potter guy 12 games to show if he can stick or not. Sauer as well......it's time to ****t or get off the pot with some of these guys.

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What games are you watching?

I will take Rozy over Redden but that is not saying much.

They both are 5-6 defensemen at best at any price.
On a stacked team? Sure

On most teams Rozy is a great 2nd pairing guy. On some bad teams he can do top pairing spot duty......we seen it before here.

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my judgement from what i saw of him last year, preseason, and last night is that he's not there

people are ridiculous in their judgement of Rosi and Redden....especially Rosi recently

looking past their contracts, they're not as horrible as people make them out to be
Was it a coindience when Redden and Kotilik were sitting in the press box the rangers played better.

Redden sits for 2 games and comes back and plays worse.

Rozy gets toasted all the time, is overpowered all the time and u guys love him...amazing.

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Was it a coindience when Redden and Kotilik were sitting in the press box the rangers played better.

Redden sits for 2 games and comes back and plays worse.

Rozy gets toasted all the time, is overpowered all the time and u guys love him...amazing.
Whats really amazing is you think Corey Potter, a 26 year old AHL'er, is better than Rozsival.

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02-11-2010, 03:10 PM
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System as in prospects. Serious miscommunication

Redden sucks.

Del Zotto sucks in his own end, that will change
Rozsival I still believe is our second best defensive defenseman
Girardi is a 3rd pair guy being overused
Gilroy's only asset is his skating, I wouldnt cry if he left.

All in all, our pro defense is bottom half. But our D has the potential to be very good in 2-3 years if we stick to our guns.


And no, Potter isnt better than Rozsival, thats just assanine.

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